Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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we talked about this fight the other day, and like i told you then, IMO he's being rushed, they need to take a step back with Vazquez Jr and work on his defense and fine tune is technical abilities, like you said he's an overachiever and well JCC Jr could learn a thing or two from the guy
Like what?
How to lose
Losses can happen when you're fighting people with healthy heartbeats.
Chavez jr can't hold Vazquez' spit bucket.
Come on now. Vazquez was expected to shread Arce. Arce was coming off that gift draw to Lorenzo Parra. In which he looked like a shell of his former self. But he still had name value. Which is why they took the fight. Cuz they wanted to add a famous name to his resume. Not cuz they thought it was gonna be a competitive fight But they miscalculated. Arce wasn't quite done. Instead he tapped that azz. Now muthafukkas want to make it seem like Vazquez lost cuz he was willing to take on the best competition. When in reality he lost cuz they took on a fighter that they thought was shot but wasn't.
Whereas baby Chavez has never faced anyone that
EVER amounted to anything. Seriously.... you defending this coddled-ass punk? Figures.
You disputing what I said?
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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So no one thinks that the fight will be competitve at all?? Vazquez was giving Arce a run for his money in there fight until the later rounds so while I dont think he wins I still see a competitive and entertaining fight.
What does being competitive with Arce prove? Donaire would wreck Arce. Like Darchinyan and Christian Mijares did. When's the last time Arce beat an elite fighter? Michael Carbajal?
Again, this fight is a joke. If Donaire's going to waste a fight at 122, it should at least be against Nishioka (which is what they were talking about before pulling this stinker out of their (Bob Arum's) ass).
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
There are only two fights at 122 for Donaire: Rigandoux and Nishioka. No offense to Vasquez or Arce for that matter, but any other fight is a let down.
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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ElTerribleMorales
we talked about this fight the other day, and like i told you then, IMO he's being rushed, they need to take a step back with Vazquez Jr and work on his defense and fine tune is technical abilities, like you said he's an overachiever and well JCC Jr could learn a thing or two from the guy
Like what?
How to lose
Losses can happen when you're fighting people with healthy heartbeats.
Chavez jr can't hold Vazquez' spit bucket.
Come on now. Vazquez was expected to shread Arce. Arce was coming off that gift draw to Lorenzo Parra. In which he looked like a shell of his former self. But he still had name value. Which is why they took the fight. Cuz they wanted to add a famous name to his resume. Not cuz they thought it was gonna be a competitive fight But they miscalculated. Arce wasn't quite done. Instead he tapped that azz. Now muthafukkas want to make it seem like Vazquez lost cuz he was willing to take on the best competition. When in reality he lost cuz they took on a fighter that they thought was shot but wasn't.
Whereas baby Chavez has never faced anyone that
EVER amounted to anything. Seriously.... you defending this coddled-ass punk? Figures.
You disputing what I said?
the fact that he's taking on Donaire next shows he has more balls than Chavez "Silver Spoon" Jr, when the biggest name you've fought in over 50+ fights is Manfredo Jr it's just sad
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
That is up for debate. Despite his no show, I would argue p4p Narvaez is the best guy Nonito has fought other than Montiel and Darchinyan. Narvaez was hopelessly outmatched in their fight, but Narvaez has performed well in all his other big fights. I imagine he'll continue as champion for a good while at junior bantam.
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Violent Demise
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FinitoElDinamita
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ElTerribleMorales
we talked about this fight the other day, and like i told you then, IMO he's being rushed, they need to take a step back with Vazquez Jr and work on his defense and fine tune is technical abilities, like you said he's an overachiever and well JCC Jr could learn a thing or two from the guy
Like what?
How to lose
Losses can happen when you're fighting people with healthy heartbeats.
Chavez jr can't hold Vazquez' spit bucket.
Come on now. Vazquez was expected to shread Arce. Arce was coming off that gift draw to Lorenzo Parra. In which he looked like a shell of his former self. But he still had name value. Which is why they took the fight. Cuz they wanted to add a famous name to his resume. Not cuz they thought it was gonna be a competitive fight But they miscalculated. Arce wasn't quite done. Instead he tapped that azz. Now muthafukkas want to make it seem like Vazquez lost cuz he was willing to take on the best competition. When in reality he lost cuz they took on a fighter that they thought was shot but wasn't.
Whereas baby Chavez has never faced anyone that
EVER amounted to anything. Seriously.... you defending this coddled-ass punk? Figures.
You disputing what I said?
the fact that he's taking on Donaire next shows he has more balls than Chavez "Silver Spoon" Jr, when the biggest name you've fought in over 50+ fights is Manfredo Jr it's just sad
This is a rumored fight. Nothing is even signed yet. I have yet to even see opinion from either the Donaire or Vazquez camp regarding this. Just what Arum wants done. You wanna suck Vazquez dick over a rumor go ahead
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Galaxy
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
That is up for debate. Despite his no show, I would argue p4p Narvaez is the best guy Nonito has fought other than Montiel and Darchinyan. Narvaez was hopelessly outmatched in their fight, but Narvaez has performed well in all his other big fights. I imagine he'll continue as champion for a good while at junior bantam.
apart from Donaire (and locally known Cesar Seda Jr) who has Narvaez fought? he's had most of his fights in his homeland Argentina for a reason, cause he can make a good amount of money fighting relatively weak opposition, IMO Vazquez already has a better resume than Narvaez (Sonsona and Hernandez) and add in he's a younger stronger guy, another guy that could be thrown into that list is Tyson Marquez cause he has really turned it around since his loss to Donaire
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Galaxy
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
That is up for debate. Despite his no show, I would argue p4p Narvaez is the best guy Nonito has fought other than Montiel and Darchinyan. Narvaez was hopelessly outmatched in their fight, but Narvaez has performed well in all his other big fights. I imagine he'll continue as champion for a good while at junior bantam.
apart from Donaire (and locally known Cesar Seda Jr) who has Narvaez fought? he's had most of his fights in his homeland Argentina for a reason, cause he can make a good amount of money fighting relatively weak opposition, IMO Vazquez already has a better resume than Narvaez (Sonsona and Hernandez) and add in he's a younger stronger guy, another guy that could be thrown into that list is Tyson Marquez cause he has really turned it around since his loss to Donaire
Rayonta Whitfield, Brahim Asloum and Bernard Inom were all good fighters. Carlos Tamara also managed to win a title after facing Narvaez. Narvaez resume isn't the greatest. But it does beats Vazquez pretty easily. Vazquez has Sonsona who proved to be nothing but a fraud. And Hernandez who went into the Vazquez fight 4-3 in his last 7. Hernandez has one good win his career. The Johnson fight. That is it. Stop going overboard trying to pump Vazquez Jr
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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ElTerribleMorales
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Galaxy
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
That is up for debate. Despite his no show, I would argue p4p Narvaez is the best guy Nonito has fought other than Montiel and Darchinyan. Narvaez was hopelessly outmatched in their fight, but Narvaez has performed well in all his other big fights. I imagine he'll continue as champion for a good while at junior bantam.
apart from Donaire (and locally known Cesar Seda Jr) who has Narvaez fought? he's had most of his fights in his homeland Argentina for a reason, cause he can make a good amount of money fighting relatively weak opposition, IMO Vazquez already has a better resume than Narvaez (Sonsona and Hernandez) and add in he's a younger stronger guy, another guy that could be thrown into that list is Tyson Marquez cause he has really turned it around since his loss to Donaire
Rayonta Whitfield, Brahim Asloum and Bernard Inom were all good fighters. Carlos Tamara also managed to win a title after facing Narvaez. Narvaez resume isn't the greatest. But it does beats Vazquez pretty easily. Vazquez has Sonsona who proved to be nothing but a fraud. And Hernandez who went into the Vazquez fight 4-3 in his last 7. Hernandez has one good win his career. The Johnson fight. That is it. Stop going overboard trying to pump Vazquez Jr
that's still better than anything Chavez Jr has fucking done, you're talking about sucking a fighter off you're the one riding long and hard on the silver spooned one, you praise the little bitch when he's doing everything you would bitch and moan that Donaire would do, your new motto should be if it ain't Red White and Green than it don't mean a thing :rolleyes: each day you turn more and more into milmascaras' replacement
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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ElTerribleMorales
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Galaxy
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
That is up for debate. Despite his no show, I would argue p4p Narvaez is the best guy Nonito has fought other than Montiel and Darchinyan. Narvaez was hopelessly outmatched in their fight, but Narvaez has performed well in all his other big fights. I imagine he'll continue as champion for a good while at junior bantam.
I agree that Vazquez is the best Nonito's has fought since Vic/Montiel.. I dont see how that's debatable bruh..
Just the fact that Narvaez was fighting above his natural weight division excludes him from that " dangerous " opponent status to Nonito..
Narvaez was a gimmie fight.... Vazquez fight is more than that..
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ElTerribleMorales
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FinitoElDinamita
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Galaxy
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
Vazquez is the best guy Donaire has fought apart from Montiel and Darchinyan
That is up for debate. Despite his no show, I would argue p4p Narvaez is the best guy Nonito has fought other than Montiel and Darchinyan. Narvaez was hopelessly outmatched in their fight, but Narvaez has performed well in all his other big fights. I imagine he'll continue as champion for a good while at junior bantam.
I agree that Vazquez is the best Nonito's has fought since Vic/Montiel.. I dont see how that's debatable bruh..
Just the fact that Narvaez was fighting above his natural weight division excludes him from that " dangerous " opponent status to Nonito..
Narvaez was a gimmie fight.... Vazquez fight is more than that..
Narvaez was a gimme fight. I said p4p. I bet that Narvaez will go down in history with a better resume/career than Vasquez. That's what I'm saying, but it was definitely a gimme fight. Vasquez is a gimme fight too. I don't think you disagree that the only fights at 122 that would be challenges are Nishioka and Rigandeaux. Arce would be fun, but there would be no doubt at all in the outcome.
Re: Nonito Donaire VS Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. is set for February
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Galaxy
Donaire should really just be looking at big fights at this stage, Nishioka or Ramos would have been my picks
I agree. Nothing but big fights from this point on.. Nonito's plan has been mapped out by TR bruh... Vazquez in Feb, then Nishioka in June.. Sounds like the right path..
But Rico Ramos?? i dont think that could be considered as a big fight for anybody.. He's going to be an after thought after Rigondeaux takes his belt.
I'd take Ramos over Vasquez Jr. I agree he loses his belt to Rigondeaux but at this stage he still owns it