Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
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He spent months calling Frasier a monkey.
now that one and calling joe louis uncle tom are far less understandable to me than some grudge he may have had against white people.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
Joel Casamayor. Would constantly put himself at a disadvantage with point deductions. I know he was a dirty fighter and was just being himself but come on. He was clearly robbed against Freitas but the point deduction was just stupid on his part.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
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El Kabong
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0james0
He spent months calling Frasier a monkey.
And he called Joe Louis an Uncle Tom
Floyd Mayweather to this day calls Emmanuel Stewart an Uncle Tom.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
One bad trait of Miguel Cotto.... he always wants to be the boss in his own corner. It's why he replaced his uncle Evangelista with Joe (WTF?) Santiago, and now inexplicably drops Emanuel Stewart weeks before his rematch with Margacheato. Unlike Pacquiao, who understands that Roach is the boss in his corner. Pac does what Roach says. Period.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
Carl Froch - Gets hit to much - i know he is not going to change his low hands style this late in his career but Carl man, you don't get points for being punched in the head. He also seems to take a while to warm up and could be faster coming out of the blocks.
Nathan Cleverley -Gets hit too much. Unlike Froch it is not to late for Cleverley to expand on his defensive repertoire and utilise his speed and footwork to punch whilst going backwards when the occasion calls for it.
Ricky Hatton- Got hit too much. I think even he realises this now but it is also what made him so watchable. His angles were good but his head movement was sometimes non-existent.
Scott Quigg - Needs to sit down on his punches, become more vicious and ruthless when the openings arise. Under Joe Gallagher his aggression has gone up a notch but i still think he can finish people off earlier. Coming from an MMA background he is brave and defensively sound but has a tendency to be too light on his feet going in and leans a bit too much when throwing punches sacrificing power for angles and volume.
Kell Brook - Needs to up his work and rate throw more punches. He is great at slipping punches but could counter with more combinations rather than single punches and take the initiative in fights. He is improving and learning to improvise but needs to mix it up a bit mid fight and change style himself rather than switching in response to his opponent.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
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armin
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0james0
He spent months calling Frasier a monkey.
now that one and calling joe louis uncle tom are far less understandable to me than some grudge he may have had against white people.
Exactly..people have to realise the era he was growing up in.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
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0james0
He spent months calling Frasier a monkey.
Frazier's kids also got their ass kicked in school, for having an so called "Uncle Tom" as a father and a "white Man's champion."
Yeah that Ali, what a "great" friend. Ali fans can never spin that story. :rolleyes:
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
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El Kabong
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
0james0
He spent months calling Frasier a monkey.
Frazier's kids also got their ass kicked in school, for having an so called "Uncle Tom" as a father and a "white Man's champion."
Yeah that Ali, what a "great" friend. Ali fans can never spin that story. :rolleyes:
He also called Floyd Patterson an Uncle Tom too.
To me Ali was a villain, as great of a fighter as he was he was an even greater asshole.
That to me is mind games before a fight..getting under peoples skin. So yeah in that case he was a villain..but I have a hard time calling someone an asshole who stood up for what was right at the risk of his freedom. For me he's an icon who showed everybody that they didn't have to be a sheep to the government and media. Again, Ali is a true war hero to me for refusing to go to war. An asshole is not somebody who has a problem killing innocents in my book.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
Although Herol Graham was called the bomber, he really did not punch hard enough at the elite level at middleweight.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
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Althugz
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El Kabong
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
0james0
He spent months calling Frasier a monkey.
Frazier's kids also got their ass kicked in school, for having an so called "Uncle Tom" as a father and a "white Man's champion."
Yeah that Ali, what a "great" friend. Ali fans can never spin that story. :rolleyes:
He also called Floyd Patterson an Uncle Tom too.
To me Ali was a villain, as great of a fighter as he was he was an even greater asshole.
That to me is mind games before a fight..getting under peoples skin. So yeah in that case he was a villain..but I have a hard time calling someone an asshole who stood up for what was right at the risk of his freedom. For me he's an icon who showed everybody that they didn't have to be a sheep to the government and media. Again, Ali is a true war hero to me for refusing to go to war. An asshole is not somebody who has a problem killing innocents in my book.
I agree with you on Ali but you did ask about 1 bad trait and certainly Ali himself apologised for being racist to white people and surely his intention was not to humiliate Frazier to the extent that his son came home crying after being bullied at school.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
Tommy Hearns - got into brawls to often, also had dodgy chin.
Re: Honesty Thread - Tell us one bad trait of your favourite fighter
Floyd Mayweather - he can be a huge douchebag
Zab Judah - all the natural gifts to become a legend, but absolutely no heart or dedication
Manny Pacquiao - for some reason I don't really like his footwork. I also hate how he always loses his balance when he starts throwing big flurries
