Patriotism and Boxing

Couldn't give a shit..I'm a boxing fan first and foremost. In fact, most of the time I find myself not a fan of the Brit fighter. I love the slick style that not many coaches/fighters teach/have here.

I agree with Miles post, although I find myself not cheering for England for football either..Not sure why..I just always want an underdog country to win the Euro's or the World Cup.

Saying that, I have been drawn a lot closer to my Turkish roots as I've gotten older so if a decent Turkish boxer ever comes up (one that can throw straight punches - Fuck you Selcuk Aydin..) I can probably more accurately answer this question ;)

Most countries (Australia maybe more so) are multicultural these days, patriotism is a sham.

Nice to see Billions of export dollars pour back into your country through sporting people though,also bands.

I want the underdog to win my eyes always fall to the one in trouble seeing if he has the answers or it in him to turn it around.

Im not even close to Patriotic...thankfully all the best fighters are always Mexican so it just works out ;)

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Originally Posted by onix

im not even close to patriotic...thankfully all the best fighters are always mexican so it just works out ;)

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lmfao!

No, in fact I would just prefer a good show.

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

in my case it all depends, obviously there are Puerto Rican fighters who I'm proud to say are from the island and yea a I get a bit patriotic, namely with Cotto, Calderon, Trinidad, Benitez, Gomez, Rosario, and Ortiz, but my favorite fighter is Mexican, and I'm a big fan of plenty fighters that aren't from Puerto Rico

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Who's that?

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Originally Posted by Althugz

Couldn't give a shit..I'm a boxing fan first and foremost. In fact, most of the time I find myself not a fan of the Brit fighter. I love the slick style that not many coaches/fighters teach/have here.

I agree with Miles post, although I find myself not cheering for England for football either..Not sure why..I just always want an underdog country to win the Euro's or the World Cup.

Saying that, I have been drawn a lot closer to my Turkish roots as I've gotten older so if a decent Turkish boxer ever comes up (one that can throw straight punches - Fuck you Selcuk Aydin..) I can probably more accurately answer this question ;)

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I hope you've never had to go to a Turkish prison, if you ever do and drop the soap while taking a shower, don't bend over to pick it up. :-X

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

in my case it all depends, obviously there are Puerto Rican fighters who I'm proud to say are from the island and yea a I get a bit patriotic, namely with Cotto, Calderon, Trinidad, Benitez, Gomez, Rosario, and Ortiz, but my favorite fighter is Mexican, and I'm a big fan of plenty fighters that aren't from Puerto Rico

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Who's that?

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Just a wild fucking guess Rant-cat, but perhaps Erik Morales?

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Originally Posted by Onix

Im not even close to Patriotic...thankfully all the best fighters are always Mexican so it just works out ;)

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Let me guess, you hate Pacquiao, right? ;)

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

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Originally Posted by Onix

Im not even close to Patriotic...thankfully all the best fighters are always Mexican so it just works out ;)

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Let me guess, you hate Pacquiao, right? ;)

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Haha of course not, Manny is exciting as hell to watch fight regardless of his Ethnicity, I also believe he did enough to win the last Marquez fight, but I know Floyd will destroy him. I wanted Margarito to win not because he's Mexican but rather because I wanted him to redeem himself but I also believe he was guilty of evertyhing he's been accused of, so I would say I am pretty down the middle.

This is their thread, wheres all the Filipinos? ;D

I think that being English means that I have often followed a fighters progression from a name on the undercard in a smaller bill thru winning a British Lonsdale belt, and sometimes defending that three times to win it outright, along with a Commonwealth and European fight. By the time the fighter is at Commonwealth or European level I may have seen him in several fights and so the fact that he is British almost guarantees I will have invested more time and emotional involvement in him as well as being proud that as a fighter he does to an extent represent the country in which I live and love. Then if that fighter fights at international level the stakes jump up again because now he is already defying the odds often just to have arrived at this chance, and the Patriotic element is more about pride that someone you have followed is now at another crossroads. It adds a sense of jeopardy in which, not only can the fighter you have followed be exposed as just falling short, but also your countries pride has a chance to be embellished or tarnished. These are all generalities and maybe explains why a lot of Brits are so vocal and passionate when following their fighters abroad. I think it helps sustain some fighters too and I love hearing Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, etc getting equally vocal behind their own. It is Entertainment as well as Sport and i think it adds colour to the spectacle. I like the flags, but could do without the Anthems. In Football the Anthem is crucial because the Fans and teams seem somehow more directly connected. That extra yard is often run with more urgency when 30 000 people are screaming their team on but in the ring I think the outcome is much more hard to influence. Pre and post fight though, a crowd of your compatriots must help in preparing your resolve and celebrating your victory.

I seem to cheer on alot of British fighters as the better boxers we get here the better boxing could be here in Britian. I do love an underdog but most british fighters are underdogs. Theres a difference to being to passionate about british fighters i mean I wanted David Haye and Amir Khan to win but when they are losing you got to accept it and give the other person the credit. I do want British boxers getting better and making an impact on the world scene we would get big fights here more which would be fantastic for this country aswell.

I mean you get high hopes for boxers and people like Kel Brook and the rest will bring boxing back good in Britian... I must say as much as I want Khan to win i think he is a prick for the way he acts and his attitude is quite annoying.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Strange as this may seem, I find myself similar to Miles in that I tend to root for the underdog unless its one of my favorite fighters. As to my favorite fighters, only Tim Bradley is American. A corrollary question and perhaps more interesting, is whether between your nation's fighters, do you root for the fighter whom you share race in common? Also, among your nation, do you support the fighter from the same area you are from?

My gut tells me that most posters on here favor their nation's fighters and, specifically, boxers who share their race. VD - Mexican fighters, PSL - Filipino boxers, Erics - British fighters, Finito-Korean fighters etc.

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Damn right. Tomato can or superstar, 'gotta cheer for my countrymen.

There's nothing wrong with being bias imo.

Lemme get something clear though. I cheer for them. Not blindly nuthug them. There's difference.

I don't make excuses if any of them loses. I never have. 'Hopefully I never will.

I just care about styles and mentality. My top 3 favorite fighters are Marquez, Nonito, and Linares... A Mexican, Filipino, and a Venezuelan lol so Rant's assumption is a little off..

I may support certain Korean fighters just because they come in a few but I know their ceiling. I wouldnt go nuthuggin them and make outrageous claims..

Any fighter who's a well schooled Boxer-puncher with high ring IQ is cool with me..