Which fighter received the greatest gift of all in 2011

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Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX

This thread is a litmus test to sort the objective fans from the ones who have no credibility at all. If you want to be taken even a little bit seriously on any thread around here, you gotta vote Helenius.

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Who made you the arbiter of credibility? Chisora was robbed,but so was Marquez. You obviously don't agree but you can't call someone's judgement and credibility into question because they have a different opinion to you. Del boy will come again JMM Is at the end of his career and had the opportunity of being credited with beating the number 2 P4P snatched away from him.

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Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

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Originally Posted by outspoken

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

You sly dog. Is this another subtle prompt for Outspoken to come in here with yet ANOTHER anti-Cotto, pro-Margarito rant?

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Get a grip on yourself tito, dont be shaken. This thread doesnt revolve around your worst nightmare, Margarito, and his son miguel.

I was thinkin of Muhammed Rachman who got done dirty in his own backyard of indonesia..Against porpramook..

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Lmfao! You already know he loves to bring Cotto up! I would say Pacquiao mostly because of how profile it was and being the 3rd time that they screw Marquez over.. You would think that after so many fights they would probably be like eh.. let's just give him one. I mean he did win them after all. All in all though like everyone else is saying in here Helenius.

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I was going to say pacquiao too. It was a big fight that a lot of people saw .

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That's moronic


Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
Scoop Malinowski, *************: Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jim Lampley, HBO: Pacquiao
Randy Gordon, former Chairman, New York State Athletic Commission; former editor, Ring Magazine: Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jose Castillo, Fight Manager: Pacquiao
James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com: Pacquiao
Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Tony Paige, WFAN/CBS New York: Pacquiao
Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Patrick L. Stumberg, MMAMania.com/SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Dan Hill, Wall Street Journal: Pacquiao
Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
"Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Sam Gerasi, DogHouseBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Don Donatello, NowBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: Pacquiao
Robert Smith, General Secretary, British Boxing Board of Control: Pacquiao __________________


Now you will get back to me and post those dudes who have Marquez winning by 1 or 2 pts and you call it a gift? :p

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

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Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX

This thread is a litmus test to sort the objective fans from the ones who have no credibility at all. If you want to be taken even a little bit seriously on any thread around here, you gotta vote Helenius.

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Who made you the arbiter of credibility? Chisora was robbed,but so was Marquez. You obviously don't agree but you can't call someone's judgement and credibility into question because they have a different opinion to you. Del boy will come again JMM Is at the end of his career and had the opportunity of being credited with beating the number 2 P4P snatched away from him.

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Of course I can call someone's judgment and credibility into question because he or she has a different opinion. Isn't that exactly what everyone on this board is doing when they say that a judge's decision is a "gift" or a "robbery"?

The fact that it may have been JMM's last chance is irrelevant to how big a gift it was. Does it suck more for Marquez? Yeah, probably so. But there's a difference between a disputed, or even "bad" decision, and a total fuckin' joke. Helenius-Chisora isn't even in the same category. It would have to get substantially elevated to be called a "bad decision."

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

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Originally Posted by Maravilla2012

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Originally Posted by outspoken

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

You sly dog. Is this another subtle prompt for Outspoken to come in here with yet ANOTHER anti-Cotto, pro-Margarito rant?

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Get a grip on yourself tito, dont be shaken. This thread doesnt revolve around your worst nightmare, Margarito, and his son miguel.

I was thinkin of Muhammed Rachman who got done dirty in his own backyard of indonesia..Against porpramook..

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Lmfao! You already know he loves to bring Cotto up! I would say Pacquiao mostly because of how profile it was and being the 3rd time that they screw Marquez over.. You would think that after so many fights they would probably be like eh.. let's just give him one. I mean he did win them after all. All in all though like everyone else is saying in here Helenius.

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I was going to say pacquiao too. It was a big fight that a lot of people saw .

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That's moronic


Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
Scoop Malinowski, *************: Pacquiao
Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jim Lampley, HBO: Pacquiao
Randy Gordon, former Chairman, New York State Athletic Commission; former editor, Ring Magazine: Pacquiao
Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
Jose Castillo, Fight Manager: Pacquiao
James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Graham Houston, FightWriter.com: Pacquiao
Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Tony Paige, WFAN/CBS New York: Pacquiao
Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
Patrick L. Stumberg, MMAMania.com/SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Dan Hill, Wall Street Journal: Pacquiao
Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Michael Woods, TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
"Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Sam Gerasi, DogHouseBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
Don Donatello, NowBoxing.com: Pacquiao
Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: Pacquiao
Robert Smith, General Secretary, British Boxing Board of Control: Pacquiao __________________


Now you will get back to me and post those dudes who have Marquez winning by 1 or 2 pts and you call it a gift? :p

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You're from the phillipines I expect you to be blinded. Of course HBO's lederman will score the fight for Pacquiao he's hbo's cash cow. When the survey was listed here I believe about 85 percent or more agreed that Marquez won the fight.

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Originally Posted by outspoken

You're from the phillipines I expect you to be blinded. Of course HBO's lederman will score the fight for Pacquiao he's hbo's cash cow. When the survey was listed here I believe about 85 percent or more agreed that Marquez won the fight.

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Pacquiao won!

1. 85% are cheerleading for Marquez
2. 85% wants Marquez to win as an underdog.
3. 85% awarded rounds to Marquez despite Pacquiao justifiably nicking it
4. 85% was overtaken by their emotion because of Marquez's artistic counters despite being hit with more clean shots.



116-112 Pacquiao open your eyes and watch the fight. Stop pretending to be blind.

I'm gonna go with Paul Williams.

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Originally Posted by miron_lang

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Originally Posted by outspoken

You're from the phillipines I expect you to be blinded. Of course HBO's lederman will score the fight for Pacquiao he's hbo's cash cow. When the survey was listed here I believe about 85 percent or more agreed that Marquez won the fight.

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Pacquiao won!

1. 85% are cheerleading for Marquez
2. 85% wants Marquez to win as an underdog.
3. 85% awarded rounds to Marquez despite Pacquiao justifiably nicking it
4. 85% was overtaken by their emotion because of Marquez's artistic counters despite being hit with more clean shots.



116-112 Pacquiao open your eyes and watch the fight. Stop pretending to be blind.

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;D

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Originally Posted by terrorsid

I'm gonna go with Paul Williams.

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P-Will definitely got a early christmas gift.