Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
Lucian Bute
This or Andre Dirrell, i think he was a bit lucky in the tournament with the draw he had. Perfect stylistic match ups for him slow fighters like Froch, Abraham.
I would rather see Dirrell and Ward fight. Bute is overrated for me. I can see it now, he beats Bute and people will be saying Bute was overrated anyway.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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MMASUX
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ICB
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Onix
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MMASUX
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ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
Lucian Bute
This or Andre Dirrell, i think he was a bit lucky in the tournament with the draw he had. Perfect stylistic match ups for him slow fighters like Froch, Abraham.
I would rather see Dirrell and Ward fight. Bute is overrated for me. I can see it now, he beats Bute and people will be saying Bute was overrated anyway.
I just want to see him fight someone who can challenge his speed, athletism, ETC. Both Dirrell, Bute, are slick and dangerous. I think Lucian Bute is more dangerous because of his power especially to the body. But Andre Dirrell has the style to cause him problems.
It's not Andre Ward's fault he has fought, but i still think guys like Abraham, Froch, are perfect stylistic matches for him. And fighter's like Green, Miranda, are average. And Sakio Bika was already beaten convincingly by Lucian Bute as was Edison Miranda.
I just think people are going way over the top here, with all this talk of him being comparable to Floyd Mayweather Jr and ETC. It wasn't that long ago Andre Ward was being dumped on his backside by guys like Darnell Boone.
I don't think he has looked brilliant in any of his fights, and he has yet to prove to me he is a great fighter or the best at 168.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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MMASUX
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ICB
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Onix
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MMASUX
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ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
Lucian Bute
This or Andre Dirrell, i think he was a bit lucky in the tournament with the draw he had. Perfect stylistic match ups for him slow fighters like Froch, Abraham.
I would rather see Dirrell and Ward fight. Bute is overrated for me.
I can see it now, he beats Bute and people will be saying Bute was overrated anyway.
Not if Bute beats Froch and Kessler first.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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ICB
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MMASUX
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ICB
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Onix
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MMASUX
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
Lucian Bute
This or Andre Dirrell, i think he was a bit lucky in the tournament with the draw he had. Perfect stylistic match ups for him slow fighters like Froch, Abraham.
I would rather see Dirrell and Ward fight. Bute is overrated for me. I can see it now, he beats Bute and people will be saying Bute was overrated anyway.
I just want to see him fight someone who can challenge his speed, athletism, ETC. Both Dirrell, Bute, are slick and dangerous. I think Lucian Bute is more dangerous because of his power especially to the body. But Andre Dirrell has the style to cause him problems.
It's not Andre Ward's fault he has fought, but i still think guys like Abraham, Froch, are perfect stylistic matches for him. And fighter's like Green, Miranda, are average. And Sakio Bika was already beaten convincingly by Lucian Bute as was Edison Miranda.
I just think people are going way over the top here, with all this talk of him being comparable to Floyd Mayweather Jr and ETC. It wasn't that long ago Andre Ward was being dumped on his backside by guys like Darnell Boone.
I don't think he has looked brilliant in any of his fights, and he has yet to prove to me he is a great fighter or the best at 168.
Although it was ugly, and there was a lot of head-butting, he looked tough to beat in the Kessler fight.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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Rantcatrat
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ICB
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MMASUX
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ICB
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Onix
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MMASUX
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
Lucian Bute
This or Andre Dirrell, i think he was a bit lucky in the tournament with the draw he had. Perfect stylistic match ups for him slow fighters like Froch, Abraham.
I would rather see Dirrell and Ward fight. Bute is overrated for me. I can see it now, he beats Bute and people will be saying Bute was overrated anyway.
I just want to see him fight someone who can challenge his speed, athletism, ETC. Both Dirrell, Bute, are slick and dangerous. I think Lucian Bute is more dangerous because of his power especially to the body. But Andre Dirrell has the style to cause him problems.
It's not Andre Ward's fault he has fought, but i still think guys like Abraham, Froch, are perfect stylistic matches for him. And fighter's like Green, Miranda, are average. And Sakio Bika was already beaten convincingly by Lucian Bute as was Edison Miranda.
I just think people are going way over the top here, with all this talk of him being comparable to Floyd Mayweather Jr and ETC. It wasn't that long ago Andre Ward was being dumped on his backside by guys like Darnell Boone.
I don't think he has looked brilliant in any of his fights, and he has yet to prove to me he is a great fighter or the best at 168.
Although it was ugly, and there was a lot of head-butting, he looked tough to beat in the Kessler fight.
I agree, i would love to see him completely clean out he division and fight Bute, and Dirrell then we can talk about how great he is. I do think he is on the way to becoming great. To compare him to what Floyd has done so far is crazy.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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ICB
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MMASUX
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ICB
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Onix
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MMASUX
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Originally Posted by
ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
Lucian Bute
This or Andre Dirrell, i think he was a bit lucky in the tournament with the draw he had. Perfect stylistic match ups for him slow fighters like Froch, Abraham.
I would rather see Dirrell and Ward fight. Bute is overrated for me. I can see it now, he beats Bute and people will be saying Bute was overrated anyway.
I just want to see him fight someone who can challenge his speed, athletism, ETC. Both Dirrell, Bute, are slick and dangerous. I think Lucian Bute is more dangerous because of his power especially to the body. But Andre Dirrell has the style to cause him problems.
It's not Andre Ward's fault he has fought, but i still think guys like Abraham, Froch, are perfect stylistic matches for him. And fighter's like Green, Miranda, are average. And Sakio Bika was already beaten convincingly by Lucian Bute as was Edison Miranda.
I just think people are going way over the top here, with all this talk of him being comparable to Floyd Mayweather Jr and ETC.
It wasn't that long ago Andre Ward was being dumped on his backside by guys like Darnell Boone.
I don't think he has looked brilliant in any of his fights, and he has yet to prove to me he is a great fighter or the best at 168.
Ward fought Darnell Boon within the first year of him turning proffessional 6 years ago... and ''guys'' implicates plural.
He doesn't have a great record yet as his career at the top level only really took off what? 2-3 years ago?
He's clearly a very good fighter though.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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MMASUX
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ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
After he dominates Lucian Bute like he did Kessler,Froch,Abraham,Green then that overrated tag will diminish
after at there really is knowone else except maybe Dirrels brother and possibly Hopkins
After he beats Bute he may even have to move up, Idk
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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ReBeL BLacK
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MMASUX
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ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
After he dominates Lucian Bute like he did Kessler,Froch,Abraham,Green then that overrated tag will diminish
after at there really is knowone else except maybe Dirrels brother and possibly Hopkins
After he beats Bute he may even have to move up, Idk
Andre Dirrell, Lucian Bute, and/if he stepped up, Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson. No reason to step up now though. Problem with the SMW division is that outside of Ward, Froch, Kessler, Bute and Dirrell, there really is a huge drop off.
Re: Anyone ever Fantasize about Ward vs. Martinez?
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Rantcatrat
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ReBeL BLacK
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MMASUX
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ICB
Andre Ward is overrated at the moment as i said in other thread.
He may be a tad overrated at the moment. Who do you think he would have to beat to get rid of that "overrated" tag?
After he dominates Lucian Bute like he did Kessler,Froch,Abraham,Green then that overrated tag will diminish
after at there really is knowone else except maybe Dirrels brother and possibly Hopkins
After he beats Bute he may even have to move up, Idk
Andre Dirrell, Lucian Bute, and/if he stepped up, Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson. No reason to step up now though. Problem with the SMW division is that outside of Ward, Froch, Kessler, Bute and Dirrell, there really is a huge drop off.
I've heard there trying to make Froch/Bute as we speak, so if Lucian Bute looks impressive which i think he should. Then Lucian Bute vs Andre Ward is alot easier to make.
