I would like to see a re-match with pacman.
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I would like to see a re-match with pacman.
Ya I dont think Cotto is ducking anyone. As for being scared to fight Martinez I don't think he is I personally think he'll beat him at a weight of 158. People act like Cotto is the only one Martinez has called out he's called out mayweather and pacquiao too and you don't see them jumping around saying let's do it. If he wants to fight them so bad he should move down in weight. None of them need Martinez to make money he needs them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
he beat Bazan, N'Dou before picking up his title against Pinto who at the time was considered a top guy at 140 and was even set to fight Hatton, he beat Sosa who had given Mayweather a hell of a fight and Corley who had just stunned the fuck out of Mayweather and lost a close fight against Judah, he later fought tough top guys at 140 such as Malignaggi, Torres, Bailey, etc., at 147 he fought Quintana before he beat Judah and Quintana had just come off his then best performance against highly rated Joel Julio, also he went on to beat Williams afterwards, you can manipulate his record all you want but name any other guy in his weight class that he "avoided", he tried to make the Hatton fight but by the time it was available Hatton was about to jump back down to 140 and Cotto was moving up to 147, Mayweather avoided the fight and decided to go up against lesser opposition, only gimme's Cotto has really had since the his "loss" to Margarito was Jennings and MayorgaQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYea bro.. I give him alot of credit for stepping up to Margarito in 08 and for the fact that he gave into Pacman's catchweight demand but all the fights that took place before 08 and after the pacman bout were calculated moves.. I dont see Cotto as a big risk taker and his resume isn't that mind boggling..Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesstarting to? his resume speaks for itself, if having that much of a stacked record is playing it safe I'd love to see a "risk takers" recordQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Cotto is a perfect example of how Arum handles his fighters.. They get pampered. Cotto turned pro in the early 2000 and his first real step up was none other than ZAB JUDAH in 07.. IT took him nearly 7 years to fight somebody with a name..
Clottey, Foreman, and the Margarito rematch are all valid fights, hell he was chosen to lose all 3 fucking fights....
Cottos had a great career and sum tough hard fights, he well and truley deserves all the big days he can get!! Cottos always been value for money even in defeat, fair enuf martinez wud be cottos toughest fight, but alvarez, floyd, pac 2 or chavez jr??? Well none of them are exactly bums?! I think boxin any of them is surley classed as risk takin?!
Martinez has already said he would go down to 150 to fight PaquiaoQuote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusYa I dont think Cotto is ducking anyone. As for being scared to fight Martinez I don't think he is I personally think he'll beat him at a weight of 158. People act like Cotto is the only one Martinez has called out he's called out mayweather and pacquiao too and you don't see them jumping around saying let's do it. If he wants to fight them so bad he should move down in weight. None of them need Martinez to make money he needs them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshe beat Bazan, N'Dou before picking up his title against Pinto who at the time was considered a top guy at 140 and was even set to fight Hatton, he beat Sosa who had given Mayweather a hell of a fight and Corley who had just stunned the fuck out of Mayweather and lost a close fight against Judah, he later fought tough top guys at 140 such as Malignaggi, Torres, Bailey, etc., at 147 he fought Quintana before he beat Judah and Quintana had just come off his then best performance against highly rated Joel Julio, also he went on to beat Williams afterwards, you can manipulate his record all you want but name any other guy in his weight class that he "avoided", he tried to make the Hatton fight but by the time it was available Hatton was about to jump back down to 140 and Cotto was moving up to 147, Mayweather avoided the fight and decided to go up against lesser opposition, only gimme's Cotto has really had since the his "loss" to Margarito was Jennings and MayorgaQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYea bro.. I give him alot of credit for stepping up to Margarito in 08 and for the fact that he gave into Pacman's catchweight demand but all the fights that took place before 08 and after the pacman bout were calculated moves.. I dont see Cotto as a big risk taker and his resume isn't that mind boggling..Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesstarting to? his resume speaks for itself, if having that much of a stacked record is playing it safe I'd love to see a "risk takers" recordQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Cotto is a perfect example of how Arum handles his fighters.. They get pampered. Cotto turned pro in the early 2000 and his first real step up was none other than ZAB JUDAH in 07.. IT took him nearly 7 years to fight somebody with a name..
Clottey, Foreman, and the Margarito rematch are all valid fights, hell he was chosen to lose all 3 fucking fights....
If Paul Williams gets past the guy the KO Kirkland, would anyone consider a Williams vs Cotto fight.
It's a decent point. I've wondered where Williams will go assuming he beats Ishida. I expect him to beat Ishida badly too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
He ought to be mandated to give Lara a rematch after that robbery.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt's a decent point. I've wondered where Williams will go assuming he beats Ishida. I expect him to beat Ishida badly too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Ok then why hasn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Martinez has already said he would go down to 150 to fight PaquiaoQuote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusYa I dont think Cotto is ducking anyone. As for being scared to fight Martinez I don't think he is I personally think he'll beat him at a weight of 158. People act like Cotto is the only one Martinez has called out he's called out mayweather and pacquiao too and you don't see them jumping around saying let's do it. If he wants to fight them so bad he should move down in weight. None of them need Martinez to make money he needs them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshe beat Bazan, N'Dou before picking up his title against Pinto who at the time was considered a top guy at 140 and was even set to fight Hatton, he beat Sosa who had given Mayweather a hell of a fight and Corley who had just stunned the fuck out of Mayweather and lost a close fight against Judah, he later fought tough top guys at 140 such as Malignaggi, Torres, Bailey, etc., at 147 he fought Quintana before he beat Judah and Quintana had just come off his then best performance against highly rated Joel Julio, also he went on to beat Williams afterwards, you can manipulate his record all you want but name any other guy in his weight class that he "avoided", he tried to make the Hatton fight but by the time it was available Hatton was about to jump back down to 140 and Cotto was moving up to 147, Mayweather avoided the fight and decided to go up against lesser opposition, only gimme's Cotto has really had since the his "loss" to Margarito was Jennings and MayorgaQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaYea bro.. I give him alot of credit for stepping up to Margarito in 08 and for the fact that he gave into Pacman's catchweight demand but all the fights that took place before 08 and after the pacman bout were calculated moves.. I dont see Cotto as a big risk taker and his resume isn't that mind boggling..Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesstarting to? his resume speaks for itself, if having that much of a stacked record is playing it safe I'd love to see a "risk takers" recordQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Cotto is a perfect example of how Arum handles his fighters.. They get pampered. Cotto turned pro in the early 2000 and his first real step up was none other than ZAB JUDAH in 07.. IT took him nearly 7 years to fight somebody with a name..
Clottey, Foreman, and the Margarito rematch are all valid fights, hell he was chosen to lose all 3 fucking fights....
Hell ya they are! I'm so mad i didnt say that lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffturner
Because Freddy Roach said there's no way Pacquiao would fight him. Come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusOk then why hasn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012
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Originally Posted by shzaBecause Freddy Roach said there's no way Pacquiao would fight him. Come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusOk then why hasn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012
Yeah. First they said 154 and Martinez said okay. Then they said 150 and Martinez said okay then Pacquiaos camp said Nothing.