Pac vs cotto 2 - june 9

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

One thing that really annoys me about this.

In the other threads tracking the adventures of Floyd and Pac, there were certain people claiming that Floyd didn't really want the fight and that him calling out Pac was just a bluff. I find it interesting to briefly summarize the most recent events leading to this thread here.

-After a less than impressive "victory" over Marquez, Pac's team does not seem to be even thinking about Floyd as the next match. Instead they are considering a 4th fight with Marquez

-correct me if I'm wrong but I think Floyd was showing interest at this point in fighting Pac, but then as we all know, Floyd was sentenced to a prison term. There was much speculation about whether Floyd could serve the time and still prepare to fight Pac.

-Meanwhile, Team Pac was looking for a fight in May, correct?

-Floyd's prison term is pushed back, likely so that the fight can take place

-Pac's team says a cut will keep Pac from fighting in May

-Floyd calls out Pac over twitter. Certain people here claimed that it was invalid and that Floyd did not really want the fight

-Pac "accepts" Floyds demands but the articals released blame Floyd for being the one who doesnt have everything lined up and ready to go... then some excuses are thrown around the the fight Venue is too small.

-And that bring us to this thread here: Pac fighting Cotto. WTF???

Does anyone have anything at all to say about this? Whether or not the fight would be interesting is sort of irrelevant. Why are they even making this fight?
If it was Pac's intent to fight in June all along then they could have stated that a long time ago and Floyd very likely could have taken the fight had his prison term not been pushed back.

This is pure BS if this fight happens. :mad:

---

Exactly

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Althugz

ninjaspy, logic leaves people when they are blinded by either too much hate for a fighter or too much love. Floyd's in a no-win..he has many haters and Pac has too many nuthuggers. 90% of the boxing world will put blame on Floyd no matter what for these exact reasons.

---

95% of the boxing world blame floyd because its easy too.

Floyd agreed to bob and pacs pathethic terms of 10 million penalty for every pound over welterweight limit. Pac didnt agree for both fighters to be tested to clean up the sport.
Now he finally agrees bob dont want the fight and never has!
Cotto is a good fighter but these is yet another punk move that the pacturds will love cause they know nothing about boxing but just want to ensure the purity of a beaten fighter with many losses and a corrupt promoter.
Mannys not only ducking floyd... Hes ducking the true mexican warrior p4p no.2 mr. marquez

Pac needs to grow some balls and tell his dad Arum to make the Floyd fight. This is some BS.
No disrespect to Cotto he's a good fighter and is in it for the money. He's not the one to beat Pac, the style is all wrong.

Horrible, meaningless fight.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by imp

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Althugz

ninjaspy, logic leaves people when they are blinded by either too much hate for a fighter or too much love. Floyd's in a no-win..he has many haters and Pac has too many nuthuggers. 90% of the boxing world will put blame on Floyd no matter what for these exact reasons.

---

95% of the boxing world blame floyd because its easy too.

Floyd agreed to bob and pacs pathethic terms of 10 million penalty for every pound over welterweight limit. Pac didnt agree for both fighters to be tested to clean up the sport.
Now he finally agrees bob dont want the fight and never has!
Cotto is a good fighter but these is yet another punk move that the pacturds will love cause they know nothing about boxing but just want to ensure the purity of a beaten fighter with many losses and a corrupt promoter.
Mannys not only ducking floyd... Hes ducking the true mexican warrior p4p no.2 mr. marquez

---

The drug test crap was a way for floyd to avoid Pac and the 10 million penalty crap was a way for Pac to avoid him. They both did not want the fight. When Mayweather saw Pacs performance against Marquez his balls grew considerably and does not think he will lose. Why else would he suddenly just give up on the extra tests. The only other reason would be his prison sentence. But he has waited three years for a fight with Pac, what is another three months.
As far as Pac goes. I dont get how he can avoid this call out by Mayweather. He should agree to a fight but on a date they both choose.
He looks now like he is avoiding him with this pointless Cotto rematch. Cotto will do better this time around but will still lose.
As far as Marquez goes. He won that last fight against Pac. Would rather see him against Mayweather again and see if he does better now he has been at the weight for a while.

i like this fight

depending on the weight they are fighting at

i havent read all the shit, what weight are they fighting at?

It really makes me laugh when people say Floyd never wanted any part of Pacquiao..what would he be afraid of? Making the most money he's ever made? Pacquiao in the Marquez fight didn't show Floyd anything that Floyd didn't already know...that a smart counter puncher will give Pacquiao fits.

The whole negotiation saga in 2009 was them both being diva's trying to show the other who is boss with their demands. Nothing more, nothing less. If Pac agreed to the tests we would have had a fight. Do I blame him? Yes and no but my point is neither of these guys are afraid of each other. This fight hasn't happened either because of their ego's or simply Bob Arum. I really don't see how somebody can see it any other way. It's glaringly obvious

IMO Cotto and Marquez are the most deserving outside of Mayweather, Bradley hasn't really done too much to get the shot and Peterson much less, IMO Cotto would surprise a lot of people on here in a rematch, he's in a good place mentally, actually has a corner now (and a damn good one at that) and he's boxing more now than he has in a long time, he hasn't really taken punishment since the Pacquiao fight and the fight would be at 154, hell even Rafael was picking Cotto as the best choice of the 4 (only barring Marquez cause although he was robbed in all 3 what's the point anymore?)

Boxing scene already confirmed pac will not fight cotto above 147.
Arum is not risking pac having anither performance like the marquez one.
Manny will avoid mayweather and marquez like bad breath.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by imp

Boxing scene already confirmed pac will not fight cotto above 147.
Arum is not risking pac having anither performance like the marquez one.
Manny will avoid mayweather and marquez like bad breath.

---

To hell with it. Im going to say it since no one else will. :cool:



Pac is ducking Floyd! Ha!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Saddo

I highly doubt this fight will happen.

---

Ditto, and since I really like both pugs and see no need for a rematch, i'd rather they fight someone else.

i placed more blame on Floyd than Pac and Arum previously for this fight not taking place. This time I'm blaming Arum and Pac. Floyd got around to pushing for the fight (or at the least posturing for it) and Arum's responses have all been see through excuses. He doesn't even want to try to make the fight.

If Arum tried to make the fight and it didn't work out I wouldn't begrudge him, but I have a hard time believing a guy with so many excuses is willing to even make a good faith effort. Screw Arum.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by captainanddew

i placed more blame on Floyd than Pac and Arum previously for this fight not taking place. This time I'm blaming Arum and Pac. Floyd got around to pushing for the fight (or at the least posturing for it) and Arum's responses have all been see through excuses. He doesn't even want to try to make the fight.

If Arum tried to make the fight and it didn't work out I wouldn't begrudge him, but I have a hard time believing a guy with so many excuses is willing to even make a good faith effort. Screw Arum.

---

Fucking Lawyers, can't trust 'um. :rolleyes:

Call me crazy but I think at 150 or above Cotto outboxes Manny to a decision.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by imp

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Althugz

ninjaspy, logic leaves people when they are blinded by either too much hate for a fighter or too much love. Floyd's in a no-win..he has many haters and Pac has too many nuthuggers. 90% of the boxing world will put blame on Floyd no matter what for these exact reasons.

---

95% of the boxing world blame floyd because its easy too.

Floyd agreed to bob and pacs pathethic terms of 10 million penalty for every pound over welterweight limit. Pac didnt agree for both fighters to be tested to clean up the sport.
Now he finally agrees bob dont want the fight and never has!
Cotto is a good fighter but these is yet another punk move that the pacturds will love cause they know nothing about boxing but just want to ensure the purity of a beaten fighter with many losses and a corrupt promoter.
Mannys not only ducking floyd... Hes ducking the true mexican warrior p4p no.2 mr. marquez

---

Alt & Imp - are you two crazy? I believe you two live in your own universe. The boxing world is easily pro-Floyd; the casual boxing world is pro-Floyd too. Think about it. It's been well-documented that Floyd is a racist. Not only to Asians and white people, but to his own people. He has more than once called Emmanual Stewart an Uncle Tom. It is also well-documented that he has beat a woman in front of his son! The man publicly burned money right smack in the middle of the worst recession the US has had since the Great Depression. Additionally, he's a confirmed homophobe and called his father a "faggot" on national television. This is a guy who has given the public has ever reason to boycott. He's up there with the worst role models of all professional sports. So, it's frankly unebelievable that Pretty Boy is as popular as he is. The boxing world - ask Andre Dirrell, Steve Cunningham, Andre Ward, Peter Quillin, Bernard Hopkins, Tavoris Cloud or other highly ranked american boxers who they side with when it comes to Pacquiao-Mayweather. It's unanimous - Mayweather.

Imp - you do realize that Bob Arum was Floyd's promoter until 2007, right? If it's all smoke and mirrors for Manny Pacquiao, what was it for Floyd until 2007? Don't pick and choose. Be fair. Bob Arum has been in the game since before you were born; don't think he suddenly changed styles when he found Manny. Who advises Floyd now? None other than Al Haymon. I'll let that speak for itself. If there a genius with smoke and mirrors, it's Al Haymon.

Imp & Alt, I hate the term, but you and Alt are "haters," plain and simple. It's one thing to be critical of fighters, that's why we are boxing fans, and it's our right, but you two my friends, are "haters."