Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
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Rantcatrat
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Rubio hits harder than Lee
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
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Rantcatrat
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Rubio hits harder than Lee
Not certain about that, but imo Rubio is still a tougher opponent than Lee
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
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Rantcatrat
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Rubio hits harder than Lee
Not certain about that, but imo Rubio is still a tougher opponent than Lee
With 86% of Rubio's wins coming by knock out, as oppose to Lee's 71% the numbers say he does
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I think it's more like 76% to 68% but numbers wise I guess your right, but that doesn't really tell the whole story. Do they have a common opponent?
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Why did Lee agree to this? He'll need a knockout to get a split decision.
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Why did Lee agree to this? He'll need a knockout to get a split decision.
Lee agreed to this because it's the biggest money fight he can get and he has at least some chance of beating Chavez, although I agree about the KO to get a draw bit.
Chavez, Arum, Martinez and Di Bella have to sign an sgreement that Chavez fights Martinez after the Lee fight. Martinez already signed it. Chavez has to sign it before the Lee fight or he gets stripped and it'll be a nontitle fight against Lee. The question is does Chavez sign then say a month or so after the fight that he can't make 160 anymore and is moving up. I'd say definitely yes but what's he going to do at 168? He's going to have to fight somebody credible up there to get a belt and there's zero chance he beats Ward, Bute etc. So hopefully the motherfunker now actually has to get in the ring with Martinez. Maybe he won't even bother trying to make 160 and will weigh in for the Martinez fight well over the limit. I don't give him any chance against Martinez in a fair fight. I really want to see him lose for the first time.
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Everyone knows I'm a big Martinez supporter, but I actually believe Chavez Jr. has made improvements and an outcome with a fight with Martinez is far from certain. He'll be the biggest opponent Martinez has faced. It's not a landslide.
As far as who is tougher as opponent for Chavez with regards to Lee & Rubio. It's a tough call. Lee is a better boxer than Rubio. Lee is a southpaw. Rubio is a harder man than Lee and has more endurance. I'm not sure.
Have they rule on the decision in that fight given the lack of drug tests?
Did anyone notice that Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in Nevada since the Troy Rowland fight where he caught taking ped's?
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Rantcatrat
Everyone knows I'm a big Martinez supporter, but I actually believe Chavez Jr. has made improvements and an outcome with a fight with Martinez is far from certain. He'll be the biggest opponent Martinez has faced. It's not a landslide.
As far as who is tougher as opponent for Chavez with regards to Lee & Rubio. It's a tough call. Lee is a better boxer than Rubio. Lee is a southpaw. Rubio is a harder man than Lee and has more endurance. I'm not sure.
Have they rule on the decision in that fight given the lack of drug tests?
Did anyone notice that Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in Nevada since the Troy Rowland fight where he caught taking ped's?
I've read that the Texas commission doesn't do post fight drug testing. I know the WBC does...but they forgot to test Chavez & Rubio when they fought :vd:
Sergio Martinez vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr: Chavez Rejects Random Drug Testing? - Bad Left Hook
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
Everyone knows I'm a big Martinez supporter, but I actually believe Chavez Jr. has made improvements and an outcome with a fight with Martinez is far from certain. He'll be the biggest opponent Martinez has faced. It's not a landslide.
As far as who is tougher as opponent for Chavez with regards to Lee & Rubio. It's a tough call. Lee is a better boxer than Rubio. Lee is a southpaw. Rubio is a harder man than Lee and has more endurance. I'm not sure.
Have they rule on the decision in that fight given the lack of drug tests?
Did anyone notice that Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in Nevada since the Troy Rowland fight where he caught taking ped's?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Chavez beat Martinez. He'll murder Lee.
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
Basic facts? Show me the reliable sources on those "facts". Otherwise, it's a racist attack and I hope the people who administrate this forum see it as such.
By the way, you probably meant "It did teach me basic facts", and "It ain't shit without its US daddy" (improper use of apostrophe).
The majority of us Puerto Ricans are bilingual. We speak English and Spanish fluently. You can't even communicate in English properly. We have a broad base of highly educated professionals, who in addition to being fully bilingual, have at least a basic knowledge of the world around us. You come from the slums of east L.A. or wherever the hell you're from.... and your ignorance of anything beyond the reaches of your 'hood makes you the quintessential "ugly American".
You routinely insult people of other races and nationalities, and insult women as well. You hide behind a keyboard and use your thug talk to intimidate those who for some weird reason fear your cyber-bullying. You are a cartoon character, from your idiotic avatar of some dude drinking and holding a gun, to your short, staccato sentences.
Sometimes you piss me off..... most times you just make me laugh. How the mods in this forum allow you to remain in here is beyond me. Funny how you are so brave and aggresive through the Internet. You're like the little puny alien in "Men in Black" who sits at the controls of a big ugly alien monster. Scary on the outside..... and a little insignificant punk on the inside.
I don't like you, but I do feel sorry for you.
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Eh, just hand the cards in now. Not just on styles but also that the TX syndicate, commission is corrupt as shit. We'll see another El gordo Lt heavyweight version of Chavez and I just don't think Lee's face will hold together and his punching from the backseat mobility will fade out late. He won't go meak at all, but he'll go.
Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
Basic facts? Show me the reliable sources on those "facts". Otherwise, it's a racist attack and I hope the people who administrate this forum see it as such.
By the way, you probably meant "
It did teach me basic facts", and "It ain't shit without
its US daddy" (improper use of apostrophe).
The majority of us Puerto Ricans are bilingual. We speak English and Spanish fluently. You can't even communicate in English properly. We have a broad base of highly educated professionals, who in addition to being fully bilingual, have at least a basic knowledge of the world around us. You come from the slums of east L.A. or wherever the hell you're from.... and your ignorance of anything beyond the reaches of your 'hood makes you the quintessential "ugly American".
You routinely insult people of other races and nationalities, and insult women as well. You hide behind a keyboard and use your thug talk to intimidate those who for some weird reason fear your cyber-bullying. You are a
cartoon character, from your idiotic avatar of some dude drinking and holding a gun, to your short, staccato sentences.
Sometimes you piss me off..... most times you just make me laugh. How the mods in this forum allow you to remain in here is beyond me. Funny how you are so brave and aggresive through the Internet. You're like the little puny alien in "Men in Black" who sits at the controls of a big ugly alien monster. Scary on the outside..... and a little insignificant punk on the inside.
I don't like you, but I do feel sorry for you.
I'm posting from work off a fucking cell phone. Spelling and grammar always suffer. But since it makes you feel smart to point them out, than keep doing it.
Your opinion means nothing to me. I don't care if you like or dislike me. As for my opinion of you? There isn't one. I don't like or dislike you cuz you don't matter enough for me to form an opinion about. You're letters on a monitor. Nothing more: I acknowledge you for one reason and one reason only. To amuse myself. That's it. You know nothing about the sport. And you're like the most predictable poster here. You use the same recycled ass lines that I'm guessing are suppose to be put downs. And I'm guessing I'm suppose to feel insulted by them. Maybe next time. And there will be a next time. Cuz it's all you got. You can't counter what I say cuz you can't counter the truth. And you know it. It's the reason why the coward in you labeled my previous post racist and why your praying the staff intervenes. But theres nothing they can do. You don't punish someone for telling the truth
