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Tarver vs Vlad I just wanna see 1 of them knocked out.
Lara vs Martirosyan
Ward vs Bute winner vs Dirrell
Pavlik vs Johnson
Chavez vs Martinez
Brook vs Khan winner vs Mayweather in England
Williams vs Kirkland
Angulo vs Canelo
Maidana vs Rios
D. Alexander vs M Jones
Judah vs Peterson
John vs Gamboa
Cheers Galaxy, I barely knew any of those were even in talks. Cloud-Pascal is a really good matchup, as pedestrian as Cloud looked for most of the Campillo fight he'll be a very live body in this one imo. Pascal has a really iffy workrate and can be hurt, he also has major lapses in concentration and tends to get kind of jumpy, seems he lunges in and leaves himself wide open half the time when he decides to throw. I could see Cloud taking advantage of that, Pascal isn't likely to have him on a leash as Campillo did persay. My head still says Pascal wins in style and all but he could get hurt at any point and had better try and be consistent. Good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
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Originally Posted by GalaxyYour probably right, but lets hope we get a few fights that are close to the level of some of these, which I think is realisticQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Caballero/ Garcia looks like its on the way, great fight imo
Adamek/ Chambers might be fun
Cloud/ Pascal is all but done
Pirog & Geale still looks at possibility
Trout/ Rodriguez
Guerrero/ Aydin
Matthysse/ Soto
Gonzalez/ Rojas
Ioka/ Yaegashi
Off the top off my head, leaving out many of the bigger fights
No Cloud vs Campillo 2!?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
In fairness, had the decision gone the right way would anyone want to see a rematch? It wasn't even all to competitive aside from the early knockdowns, Id rather see Campillo get a chance to fight Shumenov again or say Pascal or Erdei, although he probably won't get the chance. Someone needs to take Nathan Cleverly's little trinket as well, any of these guys would beat him.
Nah your right I probably wouldn't want to see a rematch had Campillo won. I would just like to see Campillo get the chance to right the wrong
Another go with Shumenov to do the same would be nice
Campillo deserves a shot at another top guy
OK so Cloud looks past Campillo and you guys make a huge deal about it. Cloud has been dodged for YEARS by the top 175 fighters. Dawson, Hopkins, Pascal, etc have just refused to fight Cloud and its not because Cloud would be easy to outbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
What Campillo deserved in the first place was an overturned decision and a non-corrupted fight.Quote:
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Lyle, come on man, the reason Cloud lost isn't because he looked past Campillo. He lost because Campillo adjusted to his style after being knocked down twice in the first round. Maybe he avoided him in the past, but Pascal jumped at the chance to fight him after witnessing him lose against Campillo. Wack part of it is that Cloud is getting that pay day and the winner, Campillo, isn't. Cloud has a shot at redemption in that fight. Let's see if he can get it done. I'm looking forward to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK so Cloud looks past Campillo and you guys make a huge deal about it. Cloud has been dodged for YEARS by the top 175 fighters. Dawson, Hopkins, Pascal, etc have just refused to fight Cloud and its not because Cloud would be easy to outbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Cloud will manhandle Pascal!Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratLyle, come on man, the reason Cloud lost isn't because he looked past Campillo. He lost because Campillo adjusted to his style after being knocked down twice in the first round. Maybe he avoided him in the past, but Pascal jumped at the chance to fight him after witnessing him lose against Campillo. Wack part of it is that Cloud is getting that pay day and the winner, Campillo, isn't. Cloud has a shot at redemption in that fight. Let's see if he can get it done. I'm looking forward to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK so Cloud looks past Campillo and you guys make a huge deal about it. Cloud has been dodged for YEARS by the top 175 fighters. Dawson, Hopkins, Pascal, etc have just refused to fight Cloud and its not because Cloud would be easy to outbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I seem to remember you saying the same thing about Campillo...Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongCloud will manhandle Pascal!Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratLyle, come on man, the reason Cloud lost isn't because he looked past Campillo. He lost because Campillo adjusted to his style after being knocked down twice in the first round. Maybe he avoided him in the past, but Pascal jumped at the chance to fight him after witnessing him lose against Campillo. Wack part of it is that Cloud is getting that pay day and the winner, Campillo, isn't. Cloud has a shot at redemption in that fight. Let's see if he can get it done. I'm looking forward to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK so Cloud looks past Campillo and you guys make a huge deal about it. Cloud has been dodged for YEARS by the top 175 fighters. Dawson, Hopkins, Pascal, etc have just refused to fight Cloud and its not because Cloud would be easy to outbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
At least he's got the Pascal fight coming up, really looking foreward to that one!
I'm excited about that fight as well, only that Campillo would still be a better opponent for Pascal and just as pleasing a clash of styles. I do expect to see Pascal in a bit of trouble early but he should pull away and beat Cloud up down the stretch. Tavoris is going to be another Jeff Lacy imo, there is no way he is around long at the top level way to one paced and slow.
Haye vs chisorsa
Haye vs Vladimir klitchko
Tyson fury vs vitali klitchko
I have nothing but love for Tavoris Cloud but at 30 years old given his size & fighting style I'll say he needs the big fights NOW. Unless Cloud can adopt a style similar to what Glen Johnson has then eventually Cloud will be out moved & out hustled and he may look closer to Jeff Lacy. That being said I think he has the power and skill to stop Pascal and Dawson it's just a matter of when he fights them.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Ismayl Sillakh is the future at 175 and I think he has the best style to fight any of the top guys out there right now. I do question his chin a bit, but with his style I think he'll be hard to catch clean.
If Cloud fought Sillakh right now I would probably have Sillakh winning
Degale v Groves (not PPV)
Fury v Price
Fury v Chisora 2
Froch v Kessler
Macklin v Barker v Murray
Ward v Bute
I,ve been impressed with Sillakh too, but the recent inactivity has been concerning...Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI have nothing but love for Tavoris Cloud but at 30 years old given his size & fighting style I'll say he needs the big fights NOW. Unless Cloud can adopt a style similar to what Glen Johnson has then eventually Cloud will be out moved & out hustled and he may look closer to Jeff Lacy. That being said I think he has the power and skill to stop Pascal and Dawson it's just a matter of when he fights them.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Ismayl Sillakh is the future at 175 and I think he has the best style to fight any of the top guys out there right now. I do question his chin a bit, but with his style I think he'll be hard to catch clean.
If Cloud fought Sillakh right now I would probably have Sillakh winning
Good to see him back this week, I doubt he has much trouble with 11-0 Grachev