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It worked very well last time. Have you watched that fight yet, Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtO1...feature=relmfuQuote:
Originally Posted by shzaIt worked very well last time. Have you watched that fight yet, Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Different styles, different fight.....Cloud will KO Pascal. Don't let 1 fight where Cloud kind of slipped up skew your judgement. Pascal will come right at Cloud and Pascal doesn't have the chin to handle what will be thrown back at him.
Cloud KO 6
It's not one fight. It's him looking one-dimensional in every fight and finally getting exposed for it by a pretty good but non-elite opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Also, a geriatric Yusef Mack is the only guy Cloud has stopped since 2008. Pascal has never been stopped. You can't be serious about KO 6.
Cloud IS one dimensional, I never said he wasn't. But Pascal ain't the "stick and move" kind of fighter either. Geriatric??? Yusaf Mack is only 32 now and he was 31 when Cloud stopped him. Zuniga got stopped at lower weights to Pavlik & Bute (not exactly slouches) and Cloud put him down twice. Clinton Woods KO'd 1 time by RJJ, Glenn Johnson stopped 1 time by Bernard Hopkins....so it's not as if Cloud has been fighting guys that just fall over and not stopping them. Cloud has fought durable opponents. So he struggled against Campillo (after putting him down twice), who's to say Cloud din't get a little happy and punch himself out?Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
Pascal meanwhile doesn't have heaps of power, hasn't stopped an opponent since 2009 (a guy that had been KO'd by the great Thomas Ulrich :rolleyes: ), and as for his chin well Hopkins had Pascal's glove touch the canvas twice, and the hardest puncher Pascal has fought is maybe Froch??? I don't know.
The way I see it is Pascal just waltzes in to Cloud's wheelhouse, Pascal won't take those punches well, and the fight will be stopped.....and then your precious Campillo can get his God damned rematch where SURPRISE Campillo will get beaten....and in the meantime Dawson & Ward will bore everyone to tears.
I hope you're fucking happy
I still disagree with you completely about Cloud but I LOVE this post. And touche on Mack -- I guess I just assumed he was old because the last time I saw him before Cloud was when he was getting sparked by an old Glen Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongCloud IS one dimensional, I never said he wasn't. But Pascal ain't the "stick and move" kind of fighter either. Geriatric??? Yusaf Mack is only 32 now and he was 31 when Cloud stopped him. Zuniga got stopped at lower weights to Pavlik & Bute (not exactly slouches) and Cloud put him down twice. Clinton Woods KO'd 1 time by RJJ, Glenn Johnson stopped 1 time by Bernard Hopkins....so it's not as if Cloud has been fighting guys that just fall over and not stopping them. Cloud has fought durable opponents. So he struggled against Campillo (after putting him down twice), who's to say Cloud din't get a little happy and punch himself out?Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
Pascal meanwhile doesn't have heaps of power, hasn't stopped an opponent since 2009 (a guy that had been KO'd by the great Thomas Ulrich :rolleyes: ), and as for his chin well Hopkins had Pascal's glove touch the canvas twice, and the hardest puncher Pascal has fought is maybe Froch??? I don't know.
The way I see it is Pascal just waltzes in to Cloud's wheelhouse, Pascal won't take those punches well, and the fight will be stopped.....and then your precious Campillo can get his God damned rematch where SURPRISE Campillo will get beaten....and in the meantime Dawson & Ward will bore everyone to tears.
I hope you're fucking happy
(I think Dawson probably hits harder than Froch btw, but agreed he's no monster.)
I think Cloud struggles with Pascal.
Pascal just has more tools in the shed imo
....In my view Pascal is not a smart fighter which is why he'll get KO'd. He has skill, just not between the earsQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I think both these guys act dumber than a box if rocks in the ring at times. But maybe a case where Pascal can get away with far more mistakes and not pay heavy for it?? I can see that. Cloud isn't hard to find but he's def hard to deter and not one to fall over easily. Over confidence may also bite Pascal on the arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong....In my view Pascal is not a smart fighter which is why he'll get KO'd. He has skill, just not between the earsQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
As we all know, this fight didn't happen because Pascal got injured. Apparently looking like it won't be rescheduled any time this year now: Lem's latest: Cloud, Pascal fight hitting snags | RingTV