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Not making this into a cultural or racial issue. But fact is you hardly ever hear of Hispanic fighters being caught using PEDs. One well known exception, Fernando Vargas, you could argue he's not 100% Hispanic. Just an observation... there may be nothing to that.
SalidoQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Carrera
Cruz Carbajal
Nino
Guzman
Just sayin;) Oh and one could include Chavez Jr also.
That we can agree on - but you tell somebody that they stand to make potentially millions compared to peanuts if they take PEDs and their concscience can change real fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou can't say ever one in boxing is using PED's I no plenty that are not to some people PED's are away of life body building remember one thing my friend in boxing you can be as strong as a bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzI can't prove my statement any more than you can prove yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
MOST elite guys have a strength conditioning coach these days..any of these worth their salt will have knowledge of PED's..
PED's will not make that chin stronger, you get hit right down you go like a sack of shit no PED's on Earth will help you then.;)
You are right when money come's into it, morality go's out the window.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzThat we can agree on - but you tell somebody that they stand to make potentially millions compared to peanuts if they take PEDs and their concscience can change real fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoYou can't say ever one in boxing is using PED's I no plenty that are not to some people PED's are away of life body building remember one thing my friend in boxing you can be as strong as a bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzI can't prove my statement any more than you can prove yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
MOST elite guys have a strength conditioning coach these days..any of these worth their salt will have knowledge of PED's..
PED's will not make that chin stronger, you get hit right down you go like a sack of shit no PED's on Earth will help you then.;)
Drugs in boxing is becoming a major issue, at this moment in time is it right, far from it when some
individuals get caught. Should we pity them no we should not as adults we know right from wrong
but if we allow it more fool us. I don't give a shit who you are Champion contender or what ever
if you use PED's you should be banned.:mad:
Body builders are known to use peds.
What is your experience of them personally all thugz? As you seem to have a picture of one(if not yourself) in your signature.
And as for the comment about if we ruin boxing if drug testing is brought in that is crazy!.. And disrespectful to all the young guns in the amateurs and pros doing it clean.
As for salido the very next day that his sample came positive, another sample was taken to a neutral agency and it was screened as clean. Drugs don't wear off in a single day. Reason that point stayed was simply because he was up against an up and comer and powers that be...well its the same song and dance.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitSalidoQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Carrera
Cruz Carbajal
Nino
Guzman
Just sayin;) Oh and one could include Chavez Jr also.
There have always been cheats in sports,if you are at the top the rewards are great £ $ some people,
would think PED's are the only way to get to the top. New's my friends not ever one is a cheat, regardless
what some people think boxing is not FULL, of drug cheats some may think so but they judge it by there,
own very low standards.
There are lot's of gym's a round my area, that are full of PED induced lunatics body building that is,
as for the 4 local boxing gym's, none what so ever.
Lets just remember not ever body, takes this shit in some peoples gym it may normal,but thank god
it not across the board,right from wrong my friend to me it's very WRONG.
Yeah that's me but it was a natural fitness modelling show..They said natural and we were all under the impression that we would be tested but even that didn't happen. To be honest it would have been really hard and expensive to testQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
140 athletes who turned up to that show. You hear runours that some guys there were on something etc but you can never know..my friend won the whole thing and he looks amazing. I'm sure most would think he's on Peds but he's not.
In bodybuilding, yes it's like a gentlemans agreement that everyone is on steroids. You can't naturally achieve the dimensions that those guys have.
add to the list Sergio Martinez, he is clearly using PEDsQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratYou're 100% correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
Add to that list Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Omar Nino Romero. Boxing needs to be honest with itself and take the forefront with testing.