Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
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Truth
How can you not care about who gets hurt in a fight? It's the point of a professional prizefight. this isn't the amateurs where you can slap your way to victory.
I think who gets hurt definitely matters, but Bradley was trying to the best of his ability to hurt Manny. He just hasn't learned how to punch the same way, and he doesn't have the instinctive nature hit with the same force that Manny does. Manny definitely follows through with everything while Bradley throws more arm punches, but he was trying to throw them the hardest he knows how, but I don't think that the fact he can't punch as hard should lose him rounds automatically. For all of Manny's superior power, there was more evidence of him being punched than Bradley, his mouth was bleeding pretty badly while Bradley had a little bit of a nose bleed. I honestly felt Manny rocked Bradley a few times, but a few times Bradley was also off balance. What I do care about is who is landing the clean punches and catching the guy in the sweet spot where he isn't moving away from the blow. Many of Manny's punches Bradley was rolling with like Emmanuel Steward always talks about, while Manny just covers up takes punches without any of the that more sophisticated defense. I think Manny was more effective offensively for sure, but that doesn't mean he won way more rounds based on clean effective punching. At least not in each round individually, there were rounds in the middle where he did land a lot more so in total he landed more shots, but not like compubox showed.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
I mean anyone who has Bradley winning must have him winning rounds 8-12 I'd assume and to me that is absolutely preposterous. The Second half of this fight was like the second half of Manny's right with Cotto, one guy on his bike doing nothing effective and Manny walking and then deciding to up the tempo and winning the rounds. I mean I understand that Manny only fought for a minute in a lot of rounds. But this thought process went time and time through the late rounds in my head, 2 minutes gone round is still on the table nothing effective so far, Manny lands a big left and wins the round. I mean to score the fight for Bradley you have to also give him two rounds out of the first seven. I just can't see it.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
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Gandalf
Bradley 7-5. A fight of two halves.
Manny has only himself to blame. In a majority of the rounds he wouldn't do any work for more than 2 minutes of the round and seemed to be taking far too many rounds off.
I don't get excited by audiences gasping at missed blows, I don't get a buzz off of commentators with a hard on for a fighter. I watch the fight and go through it round by round. I don't care about compubox, I don't care who gets hurt the most.
After 12 rounds I ask who won the most rounds and I had it as Bradley. He was down but eked out the win by digging his way back out of a hole.
It is beyond me how anybody can fail to see a close fight. Far too many HBO blinkers IMO.
dude your out of your mind, are you just trying to be contraversial for the sake of it??? i could watch thius fight 1000 times and pac wins it every time.... heres a idea when you sober up look at the statistics pffff
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
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Originally Posted by
Truth
I mean anyone who has Bradley winning must have him winning rounds 8-12 I'd assume and to me that is absolutely preposterous. The Second half of this fight was like the second half of Manny's right with Cotto, one guy on his bike doing nothing effective and Manny walking and then deciding to up the tempo and winning the rounds. I mean I understand that Manny only fought for a minute in a lot of rounds. But this thought process went time and time through the late rounds in my head, 2 minutes gone round is still on the table nothing effective so far, Manny lands a big left and wins the round. I mean to score the fight for Bradley you have to also give him two rounds out of the first seven. I just can't see it.
Nonsense. Bradley was boxing and moving in the second half of the fight. Cotto was trying to survive, Bradley was actually outworking his opponent by working the jab and picking his spots. It was effective boxing which wasn't what Cotto was doing. Mosley too was looking to survive, whilst Bradley was using not only using his brain but also had the heart to actually throw some punches. I was very impressed with how Bradley turned the fight around as I thought he was toast after 6. The man has balls.
You don't win a round on a 30 second burst having realised you have been asleep for the rest of the round. Bradley was dictating the second half of the fight. Manny wasn't.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
Bradley 7-5. A fight of two halves.
Manny has only himself to blame. In a majority of the rounds he wouldn't do any work for more than 2 minutes of the round and seemed to be taking far too many rounds off.
I don't get excited by audiences gasping at missed blows, I don't get a buzz off of commentators with a hard on for a fighter. I watch the fight and go through it round by round. I don't care about compubox, I don't care who gets hurt the most.
After 12 rounds I ask who won the most rounds and I had it as Bradley. He was down but eked out the win by digging his way back out of a hole.
It is beyond me how anybody can fail to see a close fight. Far too many HBO blinkers IMO.
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Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
Watched a foreign stream.
No compubox numbers.
JMM fan.
Mayweather fan.
Not a fan of either fighter, hoping for a double ko.
Have been critical of Manny multiple times for multiple reasons.
Least favorite fight Manny/DLH.
Picked against Manny in many fights, with money on the line.
All of the above - check.
This fight was a robbery.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
Pacquiao by wide margin. I thought Bradley won...like 3 rounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=HfeiC1sNGBc
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
I had Pac winning rounds 1 to 9, with the 1st round being close. 10 to 12 I gave to Tim. The middle rounds were clearly in Manny's favor. Watched it twice with the 2nd one on mute. The first one, I had it the same. Thought Manny eased on the gas on the late rounds. Still think that even if he gave up the first 2 minutes of every round, as long as he makes a 1 minute rally (which he did in the earlier rounds) then he still wins the round. Anyway, I'm gonna watch it for the 3rd time.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
im a JMM fan
i had Pacman winning the fight
my immediate thought to Pacman was now you know how JMM felt twice!!!!!!!;D
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
My Filipino neighbor that drove himself to drink after the third Marquez fight, I ran into outside my door just getting some night air. He had Pacquiao winning 7-5 and I had Bradley winning 7-5 and he was fine with it. He said there was a lot of close rounds and he muted the HBO telecast himself.
It's not out of the question to see this fight 7-5 for either guy or even a draw. No Robbery just a close fight and all about what you're looking for.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
Really want to confirm if Arum and Tim's transcripts were accurate. Tim, in no way shape or form was convinced he won the fight before the decision. First time I've seen a controversial decision where the winner was entirely unconvinced he won. Weirdest decision I've seen.
Re: OK... how did you score the Pac-Bradley fight?
I am appalled to see so many voting Pac by wide margin. Have a close fight in his favour sure, but a wide margin? Nonsense.
