haha so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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haha so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I would like to see either Haye, Arreola, Helanius, Povetkin or Fury fight the Klitchcos next. Cant think of anyone else who would cause them any problems. Maybe Chisora again if he can come back stronger from this loss. Imo the reason why Chisora had good success with Vitali is because he took the fight to him and fights great from the inside. More heavyweights need to work on there inside game as the Klits hate close fighters.
Please no more Tony Thompsons or Briggses. I hate to see a clueless punching bag walking round the ring, waiting to get punched in the face.
Any other suggestions in the heavyweigth devision.
Maybe he'd make a comeback for an Adamek fight but Adamek would be bringing the money to that fight unless Sky do a PPV. That's Haye's problem, getting UK TV to give him a huge wedge for a fight. Nobody in Britain knows Adamek or basically any other heavyweight apart from the Klitschkos, so it's got to be one of them. Haye was willing to at least negotiate a comeback for the very short end of the purse against Vitali until the Chisora incident. He hit the jackpot due to that so may now not give a shit about further fights -- the Chisora purse is more than he could have reasonably expected to make over the rest of his career, so he may not now give a shit about boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuIF the WBC were to make Adamek champ Haye would chase him like he has the Klits. He wants to be world champ again that is clear. If someone else was a belt holder right now he would be after them. As a fan of Haye this disappoints me but everyone has their faults and Haye knows the only way to get the Klits to share a purse is to put something into the fight and a world title is the ideal thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI don't think he wants to fight anymore. He needs big names to fight to make big money. He only had one of the Russian brothers left to fight and he would have been on the seriously short end of the purse until the Munich presser when he hit the jackpot. Sky aren't doing PPV anymore and Warren doesn't have any more sellable heavies. Haye is only going to fight again for big money.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Haye then?
I don't know who is the best option for the WBC going forward. Adamek maybe. We'll find out soon enough. :)
I actually think Haye might have Warren on his side the next time he goes into negotiations too. At the end of the day he is the biggest promoter in europe and he has landed Klit fights before for a much less known fighter too.
I can't see Warren ever getting involved in negotiations for Haye. Haye would only ever do business with Warren as far as selling Haye's own promotion to Warren's TV channel.
What do professional boxers fight for?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAre we to assume he ever fought for anything else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI don't think he wants to fight anymore. He needs big names to fight to make big money. He only had one of the Russian brothers left to fight and he would have been on the seriously short end of the purse until the Munich presser when he hit the jackpot. Sky aren't doing PPV anymore and Warren doesn't have any more sellable heavies. Haye is only going to fight again for big money.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Haye then?
I don't know who is the best option for the WBC going forward. Adamek maybe. We'll find out soon enough. :)
Titles, history, records, to be "the greatest"....you have a hard time understanding that someone like Joe Louis or Ali didn't fight just for money. Hell if you can make money sitting behind a desk, why fight for it? Michael Jordan didn't play basketball just for a paycheck, he played to be the best and to win titles. My point is that if you're not in it to be the best then why do it, and that's with any vocation not just the professional athletes. To quote former NFL coach Herm Edwards "You play to win the game." It's a waste of time and effort to not try and be the best and my argument is that David Haye isn't trying to be the best, he isn't trying to be remembered as a great and therefore he's a waste of time, he's 100% focused on money and that being the case I don't think he should be a boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Its no different than any other walk of life. We all get to a certain place in our work life and its all about the Benjamins. Actually its always all about the Benjamins, we just know on the way up we cant command what we'd like to earn.
Haye's been fighting all his life, I think he's earned the right to get what he can while he can.
I'm sure Michael Jordan didnt tell Nike to forget about the money, I'm doing this for the love of it?
Nike was an ENDORSEMENT he earned from being the greatest basketball player to ever play the game...different from "I don't wanna sign that contract, that's a slave contract"Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Still stands though, he would have got paid what he was worth and not a penny less wouldn't he?
Endorsement, contract, irrelevant really, its all about the Benjamins ;)
I'd love it if he or anyone for that matter said fuck it, I've earned enough, I just want to fight him him and him, don't care about the money.
Never going to happen.
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Originally Posted by El KabongTitles, history, records, to be "the greatest"....you have a hard time understanding that someone like Joe Louis or Ali didn't fight just for money. Hell if you can make money sitting behind a desk, why fight for it? Michael Jordan didn't play basketball just for a paycheck, he played to be the best and to win titles. My point is that if you're not in it to be the best then why do it, and that's with any vocation not just the professional athletes. To quote former NFL coach Herm Edwards "You play to win the game." It's a waste of time and effort to not try and be the best and my argument is that David Haye isn't trying to be the best, he isn't trying to be remembered as a great and therefore he's a waste of time, he's 100% focused on money and that being the case I don't think he should be a boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You don't know what was in Haye's mind the first time he walked into a gym, the first amateur fight he won, first amateur title he won and so on. At this point in his career it's all about the money, like it is for every fighter looking at retirement. When he started his professional career money would have been a major factor, like it is with every other professional, but it won't have been the only factor.
Whoever has the belt will want it long enough to make some easy money and then Wlad will take it from them as Haye did and Valuev was trying to do.