Printable View
Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I doubt anyone is really changing their tune about him overall, it was just a really brutal fight with a lot of suspense, watch it for sure. Most everyone beforehand seemed to agree it would be a war but Alvarado didn't quite hit hard enough and couldn't take what he dished out, which was all she wrote. He hit Rios with absolutely everything he wanted to.
When has Pac every pot shot anyone?! He fights like a warrior...he likes to mix it up and trade. Yes...he is a more skilled fighter than Rios. But he has slipped visibly in his last few fights. He will most likely be involved in another war with Marquez. The miles are adding up and he always has the distractions. So yes...i think a young, relentless fighter like Rios...even if limited in the skill department...would make it a compelling fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesI don't, Rios doesn't have the counter punching abilities of Marquez or Bradley to trouble Manny, Pacquiao will just pot shot Rios and either stop him from cuts or beat him by shut out, I said it before and still stand by it today, Marquez makes Rios look like a bitch, and Abril will do the same in a rematch, he already beat Rios onceQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinI think Pac has slipped enough as a fighter where a fight with Rios would be intriguing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI hope it doesn't it will be a one sided beat down, remember Richard Abril gave Brandon Rios a boxing lesson. Put Brandon Rios in with someone his own sort of level who stands infront of him, so we can see more of what we see last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Danny Perez vs Brandon Rios for example would be amazing, why feed Brandon Riios to the wolves and have his career seriously damaged ?
Pacquiao has fought from the outside and only come in when shooting jabs and lefts in plenty of his recent fights, and we've already seen the young Rios be completely outboxed by other fighters, lesser fighters than Pacquiao (and yes even the Pacquiao that fought Bradley), Abril flat out beat him, and Murray gave him as good as he got for much of the fight until he gassed and was overwhelmed, but these were also smaller guys fighting a guy who came in heavier than he was supposed to completely different than a fight against Manny at 147, and again IMO Marquez easily schools RiosQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinWhen has Pac every pot shot anyone?! He fights like a warrior...he likes to mix it up and trade. Yes...he is a more skilled fighter than Rios. But he has slipped visibly in his last few fights. He will most likely be involved in another war with Marquez. The miles are adding up and he always has the distractions. So yes...i think a young, relentless fighter like Rios...even if limited in the skill department...would make it a compelling fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesI don't, Rios doesn't have the counter punching abilities of Marquez or Bradley to trouble Manny, Pacquiao will just pot shot Rios and either stop him from cuts or beat him by shut out, I said it before and still stand by it today, Marquez makes Rios look like a bitch, and Abril will do the same in a rematch, he already beat Rios onceQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinI think Pac has slipped enough as a fighter where a fight with Rios would be intriguing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI hope it doesn't it will be a one sided beat down, remember Richard Abril gave Brandon Rios a boxing lesson. Put Brandon Rios in with someone his own sort of level who stands infront of him, so we can see more of what we see last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Danny Perez vs Brandon Rios for example would be amazing, why feed Brandon Riios to the wolves and have his career seriously damaged ?
Marquez could outbox Rios...but Marquez is a technician...Pac is not. Even though PAC has improved his boxing skills over the years...he relies primarily on his physical gifts...his speed and explosiveness...both of which have considerably decreased over his last few fights. Pac also enjoys proving his machismo...seeing if he can take the other fighters best punches (see Margo fight)...he enjoys and welcomes exchanges. In the past his speed could mask his lack of defensive skills...but not so much anymore. AGAIN...he is a better fighter than Rios. But i firmly believe he is on the downside of his career. And nothing exposes that more than a relentless young fighter. Not saying Rios would win...but i don't think it would be a blow out like so many on this board think. Regardless...he has another war with Marquez waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesPacquiao has fought from the outside and only come in when shooting jabs and lefts in plenty of his recent fights, and we've already seen the young Rios be completely outboxed by other fighters, lesser fighters than Pacquiao (and yes even the Pacquiao that fought Bradley), Abril flat out beat him, and Murray gave him as good as he got for much of the fight until he gassed and was overwhelmed, but these were also smaller guys fighting a guy who came in heavier than he was supposed to completely different than a fight against Manny at 147, and again IMO Marquez easily schools RiosQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinWhen has Pac every pot shot anyone?! He fights like a warrior...he likes to mix it up and trade. Yes...he is a more skilled fighter than Rios. But he has slipped visibly in his last few fights. He will most likely be involved in another war with Marquez. The miles are adding up and he always has the distractions. So yes...i think a young, relentless fighter like Rios...even if limited in the skill department...would make it a compelling fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesI don't, Rios doesn't have the counter punching abilities of Marquez or Bradley to trouble Manny, Pacquiao will just pot shot Rios and either stop him from cuts or beat him by shut out, I said it before and still stand by it today, Marquez makes Rios look like a bitch, and Abril will do the same in a rematch, he already beat Rios onceQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinI think Pac has slipped enough as a fighter where a fight with Rios would be intriguing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI hope it doesn't it will be a one sided beat down, remember Richard Abril gave Brandon Rios a boxing lesson. Put Brandon Rios in with someone his own sort of level who stands infront of him, so we can see more of what we see last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Danny Perez vs Brandon Rios for example would be amazing, why feed Brandon Riios to the wolves and have his career seriously damaged ?
Why isn't there any talk of Tim Bradley versus Brandon Rios?
I think that there is and it may happen because no one else wants to fight Bradley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Cant agree with all of that my friend. Manny's a jump in jump out fighter for the most part. When Manny tries to box like in the first Morales fight and forced to by the counter punching Marquez he's kind of lost. Manny/Rios imo would look a lot like Rios/Alvarado and especially at this stage. He's slowed noticeably and it really showed in the third Marquez fight and then again with Bradley even though I think Manny beat Timmy clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesPacquiao has fought from the outside and only come in when shooting jabs and lefts in plenty of his recent fights, and we've already seen the young Rios be completely outboxed by other fighters, lesser fighters than Pacquiao (and yes even the Pacquiao that fought Bradley), Abril flat out beat him, and Murray gave him as good as he got for much of the fight until he gassed and was overwhelmed, but these were also smaller guys fighting a guy who came in heavier than he was supposed to completely different than a fight against Manny at 147, and again IMO Marquez easily schools RiosQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinWhen has Pac every pot shot anyone?! He fights like a warrior...he likes to mix it up and trade. Yes...he is a more skilled fighter than Rios. But he has slipped visibly in his last few fights. He will most likely be involved in another war with Marquez. The miles are adding up and he always has the distractions. So yes...i think a young, relentless fighter like Rios...even if limited in the skill department...would make it a compelling fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesI don't, Rios doesn't have the counter punching abilities of Marquez or Bradley to trouble Manny, Pacquiao will just pot shot Rios and either stop him from cuts or beat him by shut out, I said it before and still stand by it today, Marquez makes Rios look like a bitch, and Abril will do the same in a rematch, he already beat Rios onceQuote:
Originally Posted by zhubinI think Pac has slipped enough as a fighter where a fight with Rios would be intriguing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI hope it doesn't it will be a one sided beat down, remember Richard Abril gave Brandon Rios a boxing lesson. Put Brandon Rios in with someone his own sort of level who stands infront of him, so we can see more of what we see last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Danny Perez vs Brandon Rios for example would be amazing, why feed Brandon Riios to the wolves and have his career seriously damaged ?
Cant buy the size thing either. Manny is a small welter if at all. Rios is an easy welter. Arum will probably make this fight after Marquez. Even if Manny loses.