Robert Guerrero vs. Andre Berto - Saturday night fight/chat thread

I think Guerrero has the superior edge in ring smarts and adaptability and has it in him to take this. Berto was and still is a very flawed boxer who makes alot of mistakes. Fast hands are great but he has always been very top heavy and stiff legged. He should gun for a ko but I think if Robert avoids that inside grab and maul tussle that Berto does after he leaps in with one-twos he can box his way to a w.12.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I think Guerrero has the superior edge in ring smarts and adaptability and has it in him to take this. Berto was and still is a very flawed boxer who makes alot of mistakes. Fast hands are great but he has always been very top heavy and stiff legged. He should gun for a ko but I think if Robert avoids that inside grab and maul tussle that Berto does after he leaps in with one-twos he can box his way to a w.12.

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What it kinda boils down to is whether or not Guerrero can handle Berto's power, Robert is cocky and full of piss and vinegar, but can he take what Berto dishes out? That's the question, if he can, I agree, he wins a decision.
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With the peds Berto will be on :o , Berto should dominate.

I'll pick Berto. He's the much bigger man and he's got something to prove after the Ortiz fight and subsequent steroid controversy.

Berto-Guerrero, Thurman-Quintana weigh-in:

(I strongly suggest muting the sound)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GlcssNkUAY

BTW, Guerrero looked confident at the weigh-in, but then so do a lot of pugs. :-X

Robert has the better boxing brain by far and Berto has the speed along with sharp punching.I just remember how much Aydin caught him and he's a turtle compared to Berto. The difference between Berto and Aydin is that Berto is going to catch Robert with punches he does not see coming.Unless Robert can hurt Berto I think he's getting stopped.

It's a contest of power against guile and I have never really been all that impressed with Berto. He never seems to improve or show anything new. I'm supporting Guerrero. Guerrero has the smarts and the nouse, but he will get hit and it's all about keeping to the gameplan once he has been tagged. If he can stay smart, he can get a decision.

In the co-main event I like Keith Thurman and he's got a good puzzle in front of him with Quintana who looked good the last time saw him.

Quintana can be prone to getting stopped early like in the Paul Williams rematch and the pasting he took from Cotto.

When I first saw Thurman I didn't want to like him as he is another cocky prospect, but I see a touch of vulnerability and honesty in his bravado the way Fernando Vargas used to be.

If Thurman's power is for real then he should be able to get Quintana outta there early, but if he doesn't then it could be a looooong night with that tricky, herky jerky lil bastard.

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Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face

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Robert got caught by punches he knew were coming against Aydin. Its the punches you don't see and I think he is going to be blind sided. Berto's chin is a little dodgy and that's his only hope.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Berto-Guerrero, Thurman-Quintana weigh-in:

(I strongly suggest muting the sound)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GlcssNkUAY

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That weigh-in changed my mind a bit. I thought Guerrero had some height on Berto but they look to be the same height but Berto was alot more muscular than the lanky Guerrero. Berto looked alot more confident to me than Guerrero but you cant judge too much on that. Either I am getting excited for this one, this will be my first fight sitting on the floor and Im sure these two will not disappoint.

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Originally Posted by Onix

Got a really great gift for my bday to go sit down ringside for this one, Im gonna go and sit for the entire card and milk it.

Personally I think it could go either way, Guerrero is a warrior and should have a height and reach advantage on Berto but if Bertos catches him it could be lights out for the Ghost. If the ghost can make the final bell I think he can take a points decision with effective punching and ring generalship...if Berto catches him itll be sometime in the 6th.

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This is a fight I was thinking about going to, it's right down the street form my son's place in Ontario where I'll be for Thanksgiving, but I decided to spend the time with the family instead.
The big question in this fight is if Guerrero can stay away from Berto's big punches. I think he can, he's a champion now and was one before, plus I think his boxing IQ is higher than Berto's.
I want Guerrero to win this one, but it could go the other way fast.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Berto-Guerrero, Thurman-Quintana weigh-in:

(I strongly suggest muting the sound)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GlcssNkUAY

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Jeebus. What is up with all the yelling lately, between that guy, Gus J and the new carnival barker Showtime is using i'm near deaf.

Both look fit as Hell. I do worry about Guerrero trying to out macho aka stand in and negate boxing vs Berto. He has the tools but he must box a guy who is there to be boxed. Straight line punching messes up Berto and leaves him resetting in past but keeping it real we're talking about a guy who gets sucked into scraps, Guerrero, and has risen two divisions. Bertos best bet is to jump him...go slugger. I still pick The Ghost on cards and coming off the mat to do so.

On a side not Abita Christmas batch in the fridge!! Chug a lug ;D

This fight is on Box Nation!!!!!

I can see it. :)

Should be a intresting match up,would like to see Guerrero win,dont think he has the
power to Ko Berto,not at this weight anyway.