Tyson was beyond boxing
That name "Tyson" is synonymous with boxing ... and he's still the most influential boxer in the history of the sport, right with Ali
Look at the number of boxers that have a nickname based on the name "Tyson"
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Tyson was beyond boxing
That name "Tyson" is synonymous with boxing ... and he's still the most influential boxer in the history of the sport, right with Ali
Look at the number of boxers that have a nickname based on the name "Tyson"
Let's forget for a minute this Tyson vs Wlad nonsense... although I've gone on record saying that prime Tyson would KTFO prime Wlad in short rounds.
Tyson put BUTTS IN SEATS. Worldwide! Is Wlad popular? Yeah. But what choice do we have? We have nothing else. Wlad is an anomaly compared to the rest of the HW riff-raff. He keeps himself in shape, thereby separating himself from a good portion of the division right there. He's white... and before any racist accusations come flying... it must be admitted that many boxing fans are tickled pink about having a dominant white man in the HW division. Wlad is also very intelligent and well-educated. Again... an anomaly.
But his popularity is nowhere near Tyson's at his peak. Tyson was revered the world over. In Japan, where alas he lost for the first time to Douglas, Tyson was nearly a demigod. It only lasted a relatively short time, but the HW division during Tyson's time was as popular or more than any other division. Even casual fans flocked to see Tyson fights, if only out of morbid curiousity. They wanted to see the inevitable KTFO.
Wlad is boring with a capital "B". Yes, he's got the career numbers... yes, he'll eventually be in the boxing HOF... yes, he's dominated the (shitty) division like few others... blah, blah, blah. But Wlad has always fought and will always fight "safety first." Jabbing from afar, without venturing in lest he get caught on his glass chin. I guess the vivid memory of the Sanders and Brewster knockouts are very much alive in his brain. In contrast, did Lennox retreat into a shell after getting knocked out by McCall and Rahman? Hell no. He continued to fight aggresively, at least most of the time.
When Wlad is gone, people will remember him as a great HW, but they'll likely welcome the return of exciting HW boxing. I know I will.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
on a fucking side note----
WHAT THE FUCK IS "JOB MOTHERFUCKING BISCUIT"????!!!! :biker:
Waiting to hear answer......
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Numerous people have asked this question and I don't think it has ever been answered. I assume it is either a hob nob, jammy dodger or a custard cream. All of these biscuits have done a pretty good job over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Tyson was the greatest example of superior skill and gracefulness combined with brute savagery I've ever seen in any sport.
Prime Tyson is 1 of a kind, they'll never be anyone who measures up IMO.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
job biscuit (listening to some crappy xmas songs)!!!!
eh eh!!!
eh eh!!
I agree with you on Tyson's grip on the mainstream and he truly was transcendent of the sport. However in regards to Lennox being aggressive. I vividly remember many comments made about his style being cerebral rather than aggressive. He was not very well liked at all by americans. If you doubt me, just simply google his name and with a date stamp of the last decade. You'll not see much enthusiasm about him. Which is fine considering there were many news paper articles even saying that Ali was boring with his jab jab jab and circling and holding.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Suffice to say that most technical champs are not liked by the public. Be it Gene Tunney, Archie Moore, Charlie Burley, Sweet Pea, Bernard Hopkins, well you see where I'm going with this? Because of their technique they ensure that there's no high drama in their fights. They make sure there's not too many exchanges in which they receive blows. That of course takes away part of the thrill of a close fight between two men. As such it is deemed boring, defense, or worse: Passive
Of Course I am going off topic, as to the original comment. Yes Tyson made boxing relevant again in his time and though Mayweather and Pacquiao try, they don't quite have the same effect.
Perhaps because the top earners dont fight as much..
I think its a nigerian thing..especially the eh eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by OtleyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
job biscuit (listening to some crappy xmas songs)!!!!
eh eh!!!
eh eh!!
cocksucker doesnt wanna answer the biscuit question. Just kidding mate its actiually funny as shit and could just as well be a fucking scone or pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by OtleyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
job biscuit (listening to some crappy xmas songs)!!!!
eh eh!!!
eh eh!!
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Originally Posted by DavilaJonesI agree with you on Tyson's grip on the mainstream and he truly was transcendent of the sport. However in regards to Lennox being aggressive. I vividly remember many comments made about his style being cerebral rather than aggressive. He was not very well liked at all by americans. If you doubt me, just simply google his name and with a date stamp of the last decade. You'll not see much enthusiasm about him. Which is fine considering there were many news paper articles even saying that Ali was boring with his jab jab jab and circling and holding.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Suffice to say that most technical champs are not liked by the public. Be it Gene Tunney, Archie Moore, Charlie Burley, Sweet Pea, Bernard Hopkins, well you see where I'm going with this? Because of their technique they ensure that there's no high drama in their fights. They make sure there's not too many exchanges in which they receive blows. That of course takes away part of the thrill of a close fight between two men. As such it is deemed boring, defense, or worse: Passive
Of Course I am going off topic, as to the original comment. Yes Tyson made boxing relevant again in his time and though Mayweather and Pacquiao try, they don't quite have the same effect.
I know what you mean about Lennox's image among Americans in particular. And I remember being disappointed with his effort in some key fights, like the Tua fight, for instance. But when I compare Lennox to Wlad, I still prefer Lennox's overall style. Lennox had his lapses, like when he got KO'ed by McCall and by Rahman. But each time, he reversed those losses in aggresive style. (Well... McCall didn't really give him a chance, as he broke down crying in as bizarre an ending as you'll ever see). But Rahman got paid back in full for the first fight. Lennox never fought like his chin was made of glass, and like he was deathly afraid of someone touching it. The closest I remember was the Tua fight, where I think maybe Tua's reputation with his anesthetizing left hook made Lewis overly cautious. But Wlad fights just about everybody that way. Not a way to win over your typical boxing fan.
If anyone wants to question Lewis's chin I suggest you watch him against Ray Mercer
job biscuit (spooners)!!!
eh eh!!!
That was a hell of a fight .... I honestly thought that it should've been a draw it was so close ... but I don't have a problem with Lewis winning by SDQuote:
Originally Posted by Otley
Mercer seemed to hurt Lewis more times than Lewis had Mercer in trouble ...
Lewis has an average chin IMO ... its not complete and pure glass like Wlad's and its not iron like Chuvalo's
That Mercer, despite being out of shape and past his best, would've knocked the hinges off Wlad's jaw