So...styles make fights.

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I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

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I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

Ok now from finger tip to finger tip like at boxrec. 63" maybe?

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

Ok now from finger tip to finger tip like at boxrec. 63" maybe?

Just shy of 62".

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I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

Ok now from finger tip to finger tip like at boxrec. 63" maybe?

Just shy of 62".

Alright young friend now consider that Jimmy Wilde who was and is the best flyweight that ever lived was also 5 foot 3 and had a 66 inch span. It's -38 where I am and I just purchased Total Recall 2. I'm going to smoke a joint and prepare to be let down shortly. Thanks for the convo.

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

Ok now from finger tip to finger tip like at boxrec. 63" maybe?

Just shy of 62".

Alright young friend now consider that Jimmy Wilde who was and is the best flyweight that ever lived was also 5 foot 3 and had a 66 inch span. It's -38 where I am and I just purchased Total Recall 2. I'm going to smoke a joint and prepare to be let down shortly. Thanks for the convo.

Haha, thank you friend. I will try my best at the odds, and will either tell you how bad it was, or not so bad it was.

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

Ok now from finger tip to finger tip like at boxrec. 63" maybe?

Just shy of 62".

Alright young friend now consider that Jimmy Wilde who was and is the best flyweight that ever lived was also 5 foot 3 and had a 66 inch span. It's -38 where I am and I just purchased Total Recall 2. I'm going to smoke a joint and prepare to be let down shortly. Thanks for the convo.

Haha, thank you friend. I will try my best at the odds, and will either tell you how bad it was, or not so bad it was.

Your reach is very short and you're quite heavy for you're size, I'm 5'9 and 176lb with a 74 reach and I'm heavy, I'd want to get to 140lbs.

Imagine we fought, I'd have 6inches height and 12inches reach. That doesn't mean I'd win but it would give me the advantage.

I make this point because I'm a relatively short boxer.

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

I'm going to be honest with you. No way can you fight at 140 at 5' 3". That's fly or bantam type height.

Okay. I have an idea why, but what are the reasons?

Two questions before I answer that. How old are you and what is your reach? From inside the arm pit to the end of your fist?

25, 25 1/2 reach.

Ok now from finger tip to finger tip like at boxrec. 63" maybe?

Just shy of 62".

Alright young friend now consider that Jimmy Wilde who was and is the best flyweight that ever lived was also 5 foot 3 and had a 66 inch span. It's -38 where I am and I just purchased Total Recall 2. I'm going to smoke a joint and prepare to be let down shortly. Thanks for the convo.

Haha, thank you friend. I will try my best at the odds, and will either tell you how bad it was, or not so bad it was.

Your reach is very short and you're quite heavy for you're size, I'm 5'9 and 176lb with a 74 reach and I'm heavy, I'd want to get to 140lbs.

Imagine we fought, I'd have 6inches height and 12inches reach. That doesn't mean I'd win but it would give me the advantage.

I make this point because I'm a relatively short boxer.

The advantages are in height and reach, I understand that. What I want to know is how, in context, for example, and vice versa.

And all the more glorious if I win!

Re: So...styles make fights.

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Originally Posted by Peter Som

I'd like to pose another question, since it's relatable and relevant.

I'm 5'3". What are my options as far as styles and technique? I would like to think that I can apply almost any style well with a lot of hard work and dedication.

I'm 175 lb, I think at least 140 of those pounds is athletic weight. Given my stature, if I'd really want to compete, I may want to make my way down to 140 or less eh?

What are my advantages and disadvantage against a taller fighter of equal skill?

Did you say 5'3"? That's pretty short to be carrying around 175 pounds in weight. Even if you were to fight at 140 (junior welterweight), you would have a distinct disadvantage as far as height and presumably reach. Not undoable... but it would present a more daunting challenge. I copied the following table of average heights by weight class from another site. It's by no means an authoritative list, but should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect as far as opposition in the different weight classes. Best of luck if you choose to take up the sport.

Heavyweight : 6'4
Cruiserweight: 6'2
Light Heavyweight: 6'1
Super Middleweight: 6'0
Middleweight: 5'11
Light Middleweight: 5'9
Welterweight 5'8
Light Welterweight: 5'7
Lightweight/Super Featherweight: 5'6
Featherweight: 5'5

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I'm 5'11" and would be closer to jr middleweight when training and I looked pretty drained, so hard to think a guy at 5'3" would have much success at 140, IMO you would have to shed another 20 lbs off of that to make it to a competitive weight class given your size

Haha, thank you brothers. Honesty is such a rare and fickle thing, I'm glad to find it here among boxers and boxing fans alike.

Trust me, I understand this reality more than anything. And I'm more likely to finish college and use my brain than I am gettin it smashed. If anything, I would suspend myself in the amateurs and ply my craft there.

Unless I have substantial talent (which I'm gonna need alot of), then I wouldn't pursue anything professional.

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You can label most fighters as having one of three or four styles. Out fighters, or "pure boxers" are guys who like to keep distance, work behind the jab and utilize better footwork and timing etc, think Ali or Wlad, Sergio Martinez etc. The problem with these guys is often they cant do anything besides clinch in close. Sluggers or punchers, would be someone like George Foreman or Julian Jackson, who lack fast feet or reflexes but are very heavy handed and look for the big shot. Pressure fighters are guys who look to get inside and stay there, smothering their opponent and winning via a high punch output and great conditioning as opposed to having great speed or power.

Out of these three styles there is sort of rock papers scissors scenario thats used often; A boxer beats a slugger, slugger beats a pressure fighter, and a pressure fighter will beat the boxer. Obviously this is only assuming that the men are closely matched physically and don't generally have another dimension to their game.

I'd say counter punchers(my favourite) belong in their own group, James Toney or Marquez for instance are perfect examples. I think Toney is the best natural counter puncher I've ever seen. They don't rely on the jab to win fights, don't generally come forward or set the pace and don't look to get into a full on brawl loading up on big shots etc. Guys like Mayweather or Whittaker, were brilliant counter punchers but could also lead and dictate fights with their own output unlike the previous two guys I listed.

Toney is definitely one of my favorite fighters. Roll punch to overhand right all day!

Toney is my favourite fighter, and I have a large collection of his fights.

I'll often pop one on as foreplay prior to servicing the wife.