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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
They'd have to bow down and kiss Jackson's ring like the rest of them when talking about p4p power.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
KABOOOOOM
Not a chance. The only advantage Jackson has over them is film footage and highlight reels.
The only advantage they have over Jackson is a) fighting in a time where you could fight a ton of guys who had no business being in the ring and b) not having film footage and highlight reels, so all we have to judge them by is sensationalized newspaper headlines, old guys who wanna tell you about how it was "BACK IN MY DAY" and hyperbole spewed by huckster "historians" who want to show you how far back their knowledge goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
If you wanna say some skinny white guy from the 20's hit harder than Julian Jackson, then I will say GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR.
Job Biscuit Eh!! Eh!!
Only 25% of Jimmy Wilde's opponents had winning records.
Jimmy Wilde STINKS.
Then good day to you sir because that's exactly what I'm saying. If you are going to use this phantom p4p equation its not even close. And to your following post, so what if x amount of fighters had winning records. When you fight once a week you can lose. If one were to factor in the 3 to 6 hundred fights not listed at boxrec its a runaway.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerThe only advantage they have over Jackson is a) fighting in a time where you could fight a ton of guys who had no business being in the ring and b) not having film footage and highlight reels, so all we have to judge them by is sensationalized newspaper headlines, old guys who wanna tell you about how it was "BACK IN MY DAY" and hyperbole spewed by huckster "historians" who want to show you how far back their knowledge goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
If you wanna say some skinny white guy from the 20's hit harder than Julian Jackson, then I will say GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR.
Job Biscuit Eh!! Eh!!
As to "job biscuit eh eh" I don't follow.
Modern day Jackson or Valero. All time no biscuit.
If you fed Julian that kind of opposition he'd have a 100% KO ratio.
Hell I'd say even ol' cotton fist Paulie Malignaggi would have been over 60%.
I'm sick of these old fossils getting a free ride!
Fat Dan had a go at a current list.
Nicholas Walters?
1. Gennady Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs)
2. Sergey Kovalev (28-0-1, 25 KOs)
3. Wladimir Klitschko (64-3, 54 KOs)
4. Roman Gonzalez (43-0, 37 KOs)
5. Deontay Wilder (35-0, 34 KOs)
6. Miguel Cotto (40-4, 33 KOs)
7. Lucas Matthysse (37-4, 34 KOs)
8. Keith Thurman (26-0, 22 KOs)
9. David Lemieux (34-2, 31 KOs)
10. Andy Lee (34-2-1, 24 KOs)
Top 10 most explosive punchers
I remember going to a Bruno fight with some friends, ranting and raving about the power of Mugabi who was fighting on the undercard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Mugabi's fight duly lasted a round... He was flattened by this fairly unknown American; Gerald McClellan!
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Don't know whether that list is in order.... but I would pick my top two as Kovalev and Gonzalez.
Golovkin is heavy handed but not a big single puncher like Adonis Stevenson who is the biggest puncher today.
Some good names up there, guys. Here's some more for debate;
Joe Louis
Stanley Ketchell
Khoisai Galaxy
Nigel Benn
Tommy Hearns .... of course!
Bob Foster
Aaron Pryor
Edwin Valero
Everyone will soon say Earnie Shavers, but for those of you that are more knowledgeable than the average (big ugly) bear,
Bob Satterfield
Why has nobody mentioned Archie Moore?
Ike Williams
Daniel Ponce de Leon
Sandy Saddler
Look up Lamar Clark too, I think he went something like 45 straight KOs. I could fight my granny 45 times, and I'm sure she would survive a few of them.
A power punching Thai with a soft chin, poor-ish defence, but an amazing fighting spirit. Just a shame he was a 115lber. Twenty five/thirty years later, the Internet would have made him superstar not just in Thailand (which he was), but potentially a Pacquiao level fighter worldwide.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Fat Dan needs Randall Bailey on that list??? might have geared 'BIG' towards name status as well as single shot pop.
So true right there, so many guys missed the buzz and ease of visibility we have today. Shame Watanabe opted out of mandatory defense and gave up belt instead of meeting Galaxy in Japan, may have helped propel Galaxy to more exposure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BritkidA power punching Thai with a soft chin, poor-ish defence, but an amazing fighting spirit. Just a shame he was a 115lber. Twenty five/thirty years later, the Internet would have made him superstar not just in Thailand (which he was), but potentially a Pacquiao level fighter worldwide.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Khoisai Galaxy chinny?Quote:
Originally Posted by BritkidA power punching Thai with a soft chin, poor-ish defence, but an amazing fighting spirit. Just a shame he was a 115lber. Twenty five/thirty years later, the Internet would have made him superstar not just in Thailand (which he was), but potentially a Pacquiao level fighter worldwide.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
A bit, in part down to the massive offence and thus leaky defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterKhoisai Galaxy chinny?Quote:
Originally Posted by BritkidA power punching Thai with a soft chin, poor-ish defence, but an amazing fighting spirit. Just a shame he was a 115lber. Twenty five/thirty years later, the Internet would have made him superstar not just in Thailand (which he was), but potentially a Pacquiao level fighter worldwide.Quote:
Originally Posted by X