Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Fenster
David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?
Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?
Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.
You're giving your opinion... and I'm giving my opinion that your definition of a "glass jaw" is wrong.
Remember Pele Reid? He was knocked out in 5 of his 6 losses and floored/wobbled several times. The best fighter he ever faced, Orlin Norris, sparked him in 60 seconds, his other KO losses came against non-punching Brit level fighters (including John McDermott who Fury fought twice without visiting the canvas), a journeyman and a novice. That's a "glass chin." When he got clipped he went out.
Dozens and dozens of fighters far better than Fury have been dropped. By your "glass chin" standard virtually every fighter in history has one. That's all i'm saying.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?
Im talking about what i see now , as a pro fighter , he cant punch at top level , and has been floored by a novice with 5 KO wins in 16 , it is my opinion that he has a glass jaw.
You're giving your opinion... and I'm giving my opinion that your definition of a "glass jaw" is wrong.
Remember Pele Reid? He was knocked out in 5 of his 6 losses and floored/wobbled several times. The best fighter he ever faced, Orlin Norris, sparked him in 60 seconds, his other KO losses came against non-punching Brit level fighters (including John McDermott who Fury fought twice without visiting the canvas), a journeyman and a novice. That's a "glass chin." When he got clipped he went out.
Dozens and dozens of fighters far better than Fury have been dropped. By your "glass chin" standard virtually every fighter in history has one. That's all i'm saying.
Fair enough lets wait and see , however if you do sit ringside when Fury fights a world class puncher , wear safety goggles :)
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
David Price, who currently looks a massive puncher, was unable to KO "glass chinned" Fury in the amateurs. Price is obviously a "powderpuff" puncher? How could a "puncher" not KO a "glassed jawed" fighter?
Exactly and at the point they fought, Fury was a 17 year old novice with less than 15 fights, Price was 22 and an experienced international and Fury still managed to put Price on the canvas;D
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
Cassius Clay was dropped legitimately by 2 opponents in his first 19 fights. Both weighed well under 200lbs;)
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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ross
Cassius Clay was dropped legitimately by 2 opponents in his first 19 fights. Both weighed well under 200lbs;)
So the Pickey is the next Clay , WOW bold to say that .
Every fighter who is dropped is an all time great , wow
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
Anyone who doesn't agree with Cain handling himself like a gentleman and professional here is a wanker them self.
And anyone who doesn't think Cain would absolutely smash Tyson Fury in an mma match is a moron.
Velasquez is far more skilled in his sport and overall than Fury is.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
IMO Cain handled it the 100% correct way.
It would be an insult to the sport of MMA if a boxer, who isn't even a world champ, got a shot at the #1 MMA HW in the world just because he talked some shit on Twitter. Just like it would be disrespectful to the sport of boxing if some MMA guy talked some shit and got a shot at Wlad Klitschko or Floyd Mayweather.
As far as people who think Cain isn't a skilled fighter... please stick to what you know, because when you say things like that you look stupid to people who know better.
If you locked Cain and Fury in a room and told them to fight to the death, no rules street fight style, Cain wins. There's no question about it.
Whether you enjoy the sport of MMA or not, you have to acknowledge that the fighters are the real deal. You stubborn boxing nuts sound foolish when you dump on it. You're great great great (ect) grandfathers were probably talking shit about the first automobiles, sitting in their horse and buggies ;D;D;D
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
MMA's fans are so uninformed though that James Toney has one fight and its with the biggest name in MMA and he got paid twice as much as him!
If Cain moved over to boxing, there is no way that any broadcaster would be interested in buying a fit between him and Wlad. It wouldnt sell.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Dark Lord Al
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FinitoElDinamita
Tyson Fury is a skilled fighter, Velasquez isn't.. so yea, it's hardly a superfight.
I can't believe guys like Velasquez are regarded as one of the top dogs in MMA. smh
I agree with this , however Fury has used this half hearted media ploy so it retracts from the fact he is garbage , BIG TOUGH TYSON FURY , i am at a loss with Fury ,
he is a big tall arm puncher with some skills , but no punch , no chin.
agreed.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
Good, Velasquez would destroy the "big stiff" as he likes to put it.
He's right though, although he repeats himself like a child's toy with dying batteries, he should work his way up.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Originally Posted by
ross
MMA's fans are so uninformed though that James Toney has one fight and its with the biggest name in MMA and he got paid twice as much as him!
If Cain moved over to boxing, there is no way that any broadcaster would be interested in buying a fit between him and Wlad. It wouldnt sell.
James Toney came to MMA and fought a 46 year old Randy Couture who was well out of his prime. There was no title on the line because he wasn't champion. Cain vs Wlad is hardly the equivalent of that fight.
Re: Cain Velasquez Rejects A Challenge From Boxer Tyson Fury, Jan. 2013
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Originally Posted by
ross
MMA's fans are so uninformed though that James Toney has one fight and its with the biggest name in MMA and he got paid twice as much as him!
Well that was a one-and-done kind of thing. They put Toney in there to illustrate, once and for all, that a pure boxer isn't going to go into the UFC and whip ass just with boxing alone, even if he does have world class boxing.
Boxing is a great sport, but MMA is the sport of actual hand-to-hand combat.
