Deontay Wilder arrested- domestic violence-strangulation.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

Sure, fellas already hanging this dude out to dry, but they give mayweather a bye though he was charged with beating 6 different women, convicted for several of them, only incarcerated for one...

Typical boxing fans....

These are violent men, they get the adulation of the masses for committing violence, and people raise them up for it.
Before they got into boxing, they were violent, and upon becoming boxers, violence as the answer to everything is positively reinforced, and violence may pay them millions of dollars per fight.
Having a good PR man to come up with a good public image is bull$#!t, and Boxing fans seem to want to believe in that bull$#!t. Managers and promoters realized a hundred years ago that fans demanded a clean public image out of these rowdy violent men in a very dirty sport, so they gave the fans the image they wanted. It's bull$#!t, but that's what the fans want.

I think if any boxer's your role-model, then you're in big trouble...
How many other sport's have so many participants that were in reform school?
Does any other sport have more participants than boxing regarding arrest records, incarceration, and just one legal jam after another?

It always has been, and it always will be...

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Let's be fair about this, boxing has helped more people get their lives together than it has hurt.
Let's not forget that judges, lawyers, mechanics, carpenters, CEOs, electricians, pro athletes from every sport, to make a long list shorter, I'll just say men from every walk of life slap women around on a daily basis.
I'm not saying what Wilder did is acceptable in any form or measure, what I am saying is that all forms of violence against women is a global phenomenon that runs through every culture and strata of that culture.
Like I said, let's give it a couple of days.

Boxers aren't my role models, but I certainly as a man and as a fan of the sport can expect them to act with class outside of the ring. If Wilder did what he did, I'm not shunning him forever but he should know that's a line no man should ever cross and it is unacceptable behavior NO MATTER what the woman has done, it is wrong to hit a woman it's just that simple.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Boxers aren't my role models, but I certainly as a man and as a fan of the sport can expect them to act with class outside of the ring. If Wilder did what he did, I'm not shunning him forever but he should know that's a line no man should ever cross and it is unacceptable behavior NO MATTER what the woman has done, it is wrong to hit a woman it's just that simple.

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I agree, and the penalty should be stiff enough to hurt plus leave a lasting impression.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Boxers aren't my role models, but I certainly as a man and as a fan of the sport can expect them to act with class outside of the ring. If Wilder did what he did, I'm not shunning him forever but he should know that's a line no man should ever cross and it is unacceptable behavior NO MATTER what the woman has done, it is wrong to hit a woman it's just that simple.

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What about if she's really getting on your nerves, like really nagging, a good smack in the mouth to educate her can't be out the question, surely?

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Originally Posted by erics44

whats your point?

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Well, you're reasonably intelligent, surely you can figure it out...

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Boxers aren't my role models, but I certainly as a man and as a fan of the sport can expect them to act with class outside of the ring. If Wilder did what he did, I'm not shunning him forever but he should know that's a line no man should ever cross and it is unacceptable behavior NO MATTER what the woman has done, it is wrong to hit a woman it's just that simple.

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What about if she's really getting on your nerves, like really nagging, a good smack in the mouth to educate her can't be out the question, surely?

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If she's a woman she will be able to get on your nerves. If you are a man you should be able to handle that, but at times if it gets too much, you have to be man enough to walk away.

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

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Originally Posted by erics44

whats your point?

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Well, you're reasonably intelligent, surely you can figure it out...

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hes a boxer so its got to be expected?

he isnt getting the same treatment as mayweather?

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Boxers aren't my role models, but I certainly as a man and as a fan of the sport can expect them to act with class outside of the ring. If Wilder did what he did, I'm not shunning him forever but he should know that's a line no man should ever cross and it is unacceptable behavior NO MATTER what the woman has done, it is wrong to hit a woman it's just that simple.

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What about if she's really getting on your nerves, like really nagging, a good smack in the mouth to educate her can't be out the question, surely?

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If she's a woman she will be able to get on your nerves. If you are a man you should be able to handle that, but at times if it gets too much, you have to be man enough to walk away.

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OK,

What about if she physically attacks you though, you're trying to walk away but she just wont stop, and she's pretty fucking violent, and weighs about 6 stone more than you, basically she's duffing you up, are you still not allowed to chin her?

You are allowed to use reasonable force. If a smack in the mouth is gonna save your life then go for it. If she is that much bigger and stronger, then you are probably better off walking away long before you get on her nerves,especially if she can't control her temper.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

You are allowed to use reasonable force. If a smack in the mouth is gonna save your life then go for it. If she is that much bigger and stronger, then you are probably better off walking away long before you get on her nerves,especially if she can't control her temper.

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Right, so hitting a woman is perfectly understandable depending on the circumstances. Therefore - "you can't hit a women no matter what" is silly and just not realistic.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

You are allowed to use reasonable force. If a smack in the mouth is gonna save your life then go for it. If she is that much bigger and stronger, then you are probably better off walking away long before you get on her nerves,especially if she can't control her temper.

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Right, so hitting a woman is perfectly understandable depending on the circumstances. Therefore - "you can't hit a women no matter what" is silly and just not realistic.

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I don't remember saying "you can't hit a women no matter what". The idea that the women in question was 6 stones heavier than Wilder or duffing him up is equally unlikely. Either way both points are pretty irrelevant. Domestic Violence is generally not a case of equal parties having a tear up and usually one where a violent individual is missing enough self esteem to have to have to impose their deficit externally on another.

The Cleveland bus driver clip Sept 18, 2012. The female passenger didn't pay, was belligerent, then attacked the driver with a strike and she spit on him. Did the bus driver do self-defense? I guess it's equal rights nowadays, certainly the driver didn't discriminate...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBV1u0La088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M6iAxFyAOQ

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Oct. 13, 2012, 5:13 p.m. -- New information has been released, identifying the bus driver as Artis Hughes and the female passenger as Shidea N. Lane. According to the police report, obtained by Cleveland.com, Lane allegedly got on the bus driven by Hughes without paying, claiming she forgot her backpack. She proceeded to ask "Are you putting me off the bus?" and "Is this how you treat people in Cleveland?" Lane eventually paid and called Hughes a "bitch." The two got into a verbal argument, according to the police report, and Lane reportedly proceeded to grab Hughes' throat, spit in his face and strike him with her fist.
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Just because they punch people for a living and we all admire them for their skills in doing that does it justify hitting women. That is ridiculous logic. He should be condemned and punished for it as was Floyd.

If this moron cannot control his emotions and anger with a woman I'm buying the drinks when someone with actual boxing ablity starts feeding him jabs and not falling for his trumped up manufactured 3 rounds of drunken windmill. Dudes a trained fighter, you don't get a pass of smacking around women.