Duran beat a bunch of slobs and second rate fighters at LW... and you know this!
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Duran beat a bunch of slobs and second rate fighters at LW... and you know this!
Wow that's harsh, how'd you come up to this conclusion? Sweet Pete's lack of KO record or something else?Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Whitaker loses every fight. Mosley only beats Whitaker. Duran and Armstrong go to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
I've always thought Duran at light and still do. Workrate and undeterred mentality aside he was full of sharp instinct. Fine tuned whirlwind. Both had killer balance. I don't think for a minute he was superior in ring smarts to Whitaker, and Whitaker would come in on point with minimal gimmicks, but as slick as he was Whitaker could be a tad flat footed and squared when hard pressed. He rarely loaded up and that would suit him with Durans likewise speed but in a battle to gain respect and ring real estate...Duran would gain it with sharp punches before Whitaker with his. The ring generalship by both in there would be fit for West Point, but Duran over close dec.
Can't see Mosley topping Whitaker at light, no way no how. Mosley never had the challenge to be frustrated and bottled up at light as he could be later and I'm sure Whitaker would supply it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsooldWhitaker loses every fight. Mosley only beats Whitaker. Duran and Armstrong go to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
ive often thought about this fight as both are fav fighters of mine.
if you go with both at their very best its so hard to split them, but i lean slightly with Duran, his pressure when he won the title was immense, it would be very close but Duran on points.
I would not be surprised if Whitaker won a rematch
Mosley beat Whitaker, mosley might not win 3 rounds
Duran is considered the best lightweight ever for a reason. I think he would stalk Pernell down and do work on him in spurts. Pernell would fight too negative to get a decision vs Duran.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Hmmmm... it's possible for sure!
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Throw Benny Leonard in there along with the Old Master and Ike Williams and that's one hell of a tourney.
I don't think Whitaker or Shane make it out alive.
I think with Duran being as solid of a boxer as he was he would connect more and defend better than most.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Hmmmm... it's possible for sure!
I think Pernell would make a guy like Mosley look foolish though.
Agreed! I think Mosley was an ATG lightweight, but I don't fancy his chances against Whitaker!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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Originally Posted by IamInuit
Benny Leonard wouldn't have lasted 1 round against Shane. We're talking about the stoneage of boxing hahah.
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Benny Leonard wouldn't have lasted 1 round against Shane. We're talking about the stoneage of boxing hahah.
Lol
Leonard was blue printing a Pernell before Whitakers Pappy was rolling in the backseat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Benny Leonard wouldn't have lasted 1 round against Shane. We're talking about the stoneage of boxing hahah.
Yeah nothing against Shane, but his style would be something that played to Whittaker's best attributes. I think the more you load up on punches then the more you play into Whittaker's hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerAgreed! I think Mosley was an ATG lightweight, but I don't fancy his chances against Whitaker!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Oh for sure, I give big respect to the pioneers like Leonard who paved boxing's long highway and made it possible for guys like Whitaker, PBF, Roy Jones, ect to exist!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
But we're talking WAY back in the day when boxing was still evolving, people were figuring out what worked and what didn't. Back when sport science was basically non existent and nutrition and training wasn't nearly as advanced as it is in modern times. Guys are bigger, stronger, faster and technique grew a great deal since.
So when people say stuff like Benny Leonard would kill Whitaker or Mosley... it's just unrealistic. If you had a time machine to go bring him (at his prime) to Pernell's time and have them fight, he wouldn't know what to make of Pernell (or Mosley).
Great for their time, but if you want to talk modern day, you can't compare a guy like that.