Question on How to Score a specific round.

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

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Originally Posted by cambay411

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

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Originally Posted by cambay411

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Originally Posted by ryanman

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Originally Posted by cambay411

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Originally Posted by boxing scores

If a fighter wins the round and gets a knockdown, but has a point removed for a headbutt what is the score?

If a fighter loses the majority of the round but gets a knockdown at the very end of the round, what is the score?

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1) If the fighter wins the round hes up 10-9. If he knocks the dude down as well that fighter loses another point so it would be 10-8. So if the fighter who wins the round 10-8 gets penalized 1 point for head butting then that puts it at a 9-8 round.


2) If a fighter is obviously loosing a round then gets a knockdown at the very end of the round, then the fighter he knocks down gets deducted 1 point for the knock down. So 9-9 round.

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Sorry, but neither of those are right. It's a 10 point must system.

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No need to apologize. Number 2, I am kinda iffy about and there is a small chance I might be wrong. But number 1 is definitely right.

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Definitely not right. 10-point-must means you the winner of the round must have 10 points.

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That's not including penalties.

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Which get deducted at the end of the fight.

(Credit to Fenster)

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There is no difference. That still makes that a 9-8 round lol. And that's the way its scored as well. Don't you guys watch Friday Night Fights lol?

Sorry @Jimanuel Boogustus, I put you away a bit there, I was simply showing it's a one point difference regardless, but @cambay411 is right that 9-8 is more accurate. The master scorekeeper would deduct a point from the 10-8, so even though it's irrelevant, 9-8 is basically what the round is.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Sorry @Jimanuel Boogustus , I put you away a bit there, I was simply showing it's a one point difference regardless, but @cambay411 is right that 9-8 is more accurate. The master scorekeeper would deduct a point from the 10-8, so even though it's irrelevant, 9-8 is basically what the round is.

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Yeah, just like I said ;D

But Cambay is definitely wrong about the second one, right?
No way is that a 9-9 round.

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Originally Posted by ryanman

But Cambay is definitely wrong about the second one, right?
No way is that a 9-9 round.

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Yeah that's wrong. It's as you originally said - it's quite simply 10-8/10-9

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ryanman

But Cambay is definitely wrong about the second one, right?
No way is that a 9-9 round.

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Yeah that's wrong. It's as you originally said - it's quite simply 10-8/10-9

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It could be 10-10 but i am pretty sure I was wrong about 9-9.

The first scenario would be a 9-8 round. You would score the round first- in this case, 10-8 because of the knockdown- then deduct a point from the score of the guy that was penalized.
The second case is more iffy, really up to the discretion of the judges. There was some controversy over a round like this in the first Holyfield v Moorer fight, the 2nd round I believe. I've seen it go 10-10, or 10-9 for the guy scoring the knockdown, but never 9-9.

If it was 10-9 round in favor of fighter A before the knockdown, then after the knock down it would be 10-9 in favor of fighter B who knocked the other fighter down. One point deduction from fighter A who was winning the round before the knockdown and add one point to fighter B, who knocked the fighter down.

If it would have been a 10-8 round in favor of fighter A before the knockdown then just add 2 points to fighter B to make it 10-10?

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Originally Posted by cambay411

If it was 10-9 round in favor of fighter A before the knockdown, then after the knock down it would be 10-9 in favor of fighter B who knocked the other fighter down. One point deduction from fighter A who was winning the round before the knockdown and add one point to fighter B, who knocked the fighter down.

If it would have been a 10-8 round in favor of fighter A before the knockdown then just add 2 points to fighter B to make it 10-10?

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That is pretty much the Moorer v Holyfield situation. Holyfield lost-losing the majority of the round with exception of kd at end of round, so he's at 9 ?!...Moorer goes down but flash so he's at 9 not 8. But being a good ol' 10 point must they make it even at 10. I think it should have been 10-9, not 10-8 Holyfield...Moorer already 'kept' a point as it was quick and he did well early, plus he basically gained another. 10-10 I never understood at all. I'm now dizzy.

Another was the first round of the Mathew Hilton v Fermin Chirino fight. Hilton dominated the first round but got nailed and dropped right at the bell. The fight ended up a draw and there was debate regarding the scoring of that round.

Wow. I really appreciate everyone's responses and help in this. I don't feel so stupid now for getting confused. I actually just coincidentally happen to be watching the Mayweather vs Castillo 1 fight and I noticed in round 8, Harold Lederman scored the round 9 - 9. Just to clear things up, and I hope I don't get more confused, was he wrong for scoring it 9 - 9 if its a 10 point must system?

I can't post links yet but the video is on YouTube entitled, "Floyd Mayweather vs. Jose Luis Castillo 1" and the YouTube username I'm watching is "Jerome Naldoza."

and its at 40:49 where it shows Harold Lederman's scorecard.

Castillo was deducted a point for hitting on the break and I guess supposedly winning the round in Lederman's view.

Edit: Actually I reread the posts again and I guess everyone agrees that the only time you score less than a 10 for both fighters is when there is a point deduction.