Yeah calling Rosado a good boy was really respectful, he hasn't earned Martinez any more than Quillin has it's just a huge bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
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Yeah calling Rosado a good boy was really respectful, he hasn't earned Martinez any more than Quillin has it's just a huge bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Deserved or not, he's going to get them and it'll be fun to watch. He's not some crude slugger at all but thus far his path or rather push has been to emphasis his strengths against very much measuring sticks rather than contenders. He looks to have the goods but you won't know that until he goes into a fight were we genuinely ponder a win rather than what round he'll knock a guy out. That's true for far to many today. The Tyson talk is just goofy and desperate chew toys for -some- fans to slobber on. I never get the push to use Ama. credentials to enforce professional merit. When we are still pushing them it may very well tell you all you need to know about how far a guy actually has yet to...hopes to go and where's he's at. I think anyway.
Rigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
You've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
But in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeRigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
According the Lampley and Kellerman he is the adopted son ( the one who can fight) of Chavez senior ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou've only got to imagine what this board would be like if Golovkin was Mexican.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
I no what you mean, but Golovkin can fight and so can Rigo both outstanding Amateur Champions,Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBut in fairness it was mostly all you ever heard about on his way up by all the commentators.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeRigo didn't get any credit for his amateur career when he wanted Donaire the double standards get tiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
I've never bother with what commentators have to say, having watched both fighters in the Amateur
and pro ranks. I come to my own conclusions, on the fighters I watch having watched so MUCH boxing
through the years, sometimes its hard to be impressed but Golovkin does.!:)
Let GGG step up to fight froch or kessler then we can say how good he is.
If not, martinez, macklin or chavez is the next step not 154 and picking on the little guys like canelo has done.
Broner got paid 1.5MM to fight Paulie Malignaggi! His team was hailing him as the next Floyd Mayweather, which is completely laughable after he barely got by Paulie. I mean come on. When we're talk about overrated, there is only one picture in the dictionary, and that is Adrian Broner.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeYeah Kellerman said Crawford is the best Lightweight in the world, the idea of that is laughable, Bob says Manny is the best he ever saw and he has Ali, promoters and networks hold no value in boxing talk, fans are suppose to know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratIt doesn't matter where the hype comes from, my friend. Here's the thing thing. On his biggest stage, Broner looked mediocre against a guy, who in his prime was stopped by Amir Khan and Ricky Hatton. If Broner doesn't do his job when the guy is passed his prime, I'm not really sure how you don't define that as overrated. I don't really know what else there is to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThere was a very great article on Bad Left Hook looking at the hype comparison between Broner, Canelo and GGG, if you think about it though the Canelo, Broner, Wilder, Figueroa, Russell, Thurman hype is network and promoter the GGG hype is from fans who should know better than to crown someone so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAnd we saw what happened after Broner's unsatisfactory performance against Paulie Malignaggi. Talk about overrated. I think he literally is the definition of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeThe is GGG the real deal thread the garbage he was spitting is why GGG will get the Manny style backlash but he doesn't even have the ATG career to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhat thread is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
At least, GGG has done what he is supposed to do. Take into account that Broner was a 15-1 favorite against Paulie Malignaggi, and the fight was more or less evenly matched, with Broner pulling it out in the second half of the fight. That's as ridiculous of a hype job as there has been in a while.
Canelo is different in my opinion. But, tell me why does Canelo deserve the Floyd fight? He has one really good win over Trout, if we're honest. Right?
Canelo hasn't done anything to deserve Floyd but he is a draw or so we assume, GGG got 350,000 vs Macklin and is not a draw.
Wouldn't you say that Froch and Kessler are picking on GGG then if he loses? GGG should clean out the division as best he can.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Wiliams, Pavlik, Chavez. Resume sucks, get a fucking grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer4life
I really don't know who is hyping him so much or being unrealistic about his prospects, he simply looks like a terrific fighter, and he's not fighting in a deep division. It's quite simple. Who is actually saying he shouldn't fight Quillin or Murray, Barker etc:confused:, of course those would be good to see. There is just every chance those guys wont want to fight him or the fights wont happen for whatever reason. The most ridiculous posts by far regarding GGG have been coming from this Onetime fellow who seems to have a pretty clear agenda.
I think GGG would sale a lot more if he was Mexican more but than he would be with Top Rank or Golden Boy and he would not be as hyped because people never give mainstream fighters this credit, if Canelo's 3rd best win was Ishida it be a little embarrassing.[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
My god you are clueless about boxing nowadays. Apart from Trout Canelo has beaten noone and that fight was close. an old Baldomir and an average Cotto? there is noone. Apart from DPDL there are no big wins on Broners resume and alot of people have him losing that.
Give GGG some respect, at least he has never even looked like losing.
PS this thread started is a joke. Who wouldnt want to see GGG fight the best out there? And if you think Alvarez would get in a ring with GGG you are sadly mistaken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U
this is the guy were asking to fight ward and mayweather? to be clear right? if he can get through chavez, or martinez then we can talk, until then......its a pointless debate