Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

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08-07-2013, 06:37 AM
Nameless

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

Creed would dance his way around Drogo and puncture his face with a relentless series of jabs and straights. Drogo would cluelessly look for the big punch. JAmes Brown would sing "livin America" one more time.
08-07-2013, 06:37 AM
Jerry Rice

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

Tommy stopped Razor Ruddock, Carl Williams, Joe Hipp, Pinklon Thomas, James Quick Tillis, and outboxed Big George.

Only 3 losses in 52 fights, Tommy's loss to unheralded Michael Bentt was a huge upset, but his other two losses were to Gold Medal winners:
1. A prime Ray Mercer who Tommy beat the living $#!t out of for 4 rds until getting caught in the 5th. Mercer went on to fight both a prime Holyfield and a prime Lennox to a standstill, both fights were very close.
2. the 2nd loss was to a prime Lennox Lewis who was The Man and the dominant Heavyweight for 8 years.

Tommy was a very good fighter in an outstanding era of Heavyweights.
One of the quickest, devastating left hooks you'll ever see, the guy could really fight.

About a thousand pro Heavyweights worldwide, any Top 10 man is World-Class, and Tommy was good enough to consistently be a Top 4 guy, but just missing that little extra that makes a man the elite Top 3.

Nobody in the Rocky films is better than Tommy.
Ain't no piddlin' 175 pounder like Antonio Tarver beatin' Tommy.
What matters is reality, not P4P fiction, and reality is what happens when 2 men actually fight, and no piddlin' 175 pounder was gonna beat a 6'2" 227 lb Tommy.
No former Toughman Champ like Mr. T, certainly no actors like Carl Weathers, 5'10" Stallone, nor a 6'4" Drago...

You forgot thunder lips.
08-07-2013, 06:39 AM
bradlee180

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

Oh $#!t, I'm gettin' senile, Smokin' Joe made like a 20 second appearance too in the 1st one in 1976...
08-07-2013, 06:40 AM
bradlee180

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

I did remember Duran though and chose not to consider him, I mean c'mon, 5'7" Lightweight?
08-07-2013, 10:23 AM
bzkfn

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

It is a close call. I lost alot of respect for Apollo for blatently ducking Clubber Lang. Crazy foo!
08-07-2013, 03:42 PM
BIG H

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

Prime Creed versus Drago, goes how the first 15 seconds of their fight went. Creed humiliates him!

Creed also beats Lang, Morrison, Kane, and Dixon, but not Thunderlip or Spider Rico!
08-07-2013, 03:58 PM
justaguy

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

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Originally Posted by walrus

I disagree, Apollo was overrated. He almost got beat by a no one from Philly.

Yes, but was that PRIME Creed? I don't know. That was post success Holywood Creed. Same thing happened to Rocky in Rocky III after he beat Creed. He didn't have the Eye of the Tiger anymore.
08-07-2013, 04:02 PM
justaguy

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

In answer to the question, the man of a thousand nicknames over the 'roided Roosky all day every day.

Drago was strong, but Creed in his prime was faster and craftier than Rocky was with far quicker hands. He would have stung Drago intially while Drago tried to 'break him'.

In fact, if the referee would have done his job, I don't know that Drago beats Creed anyway. The referee should have been banned for life from the sport after allowing a boxer to pick up a guy, throw him in the corner, and keep swinging. There is no excuse for that.
08-07-2013, 07:09 PM
Britkid

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

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Originally Posted by justaguy

In answer to the question, the man of a thousand nicknames over the 'roided Roosky all day every day.

Drago was strong, but Creed in his prime was faster and craftier than Rocky was with far quicker hands. He would have stung Drago intially while Drago tried to 'break him'.

In fact, if the referee would have done his job, I don't know that Drago beats Creed anyway. The referee should have been banned for life from the sport after allowing a boxer to pick up a guy, throw him in the corner, and keep swinging. There is no excuse for that.

Also Creed had excellent power too. He left us with career numbers of 48-1 (47)
08-07-2013, 07:13 PM
walrus

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

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Originally Posted by justaguy

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Originally Posted by walrus

I disagree, Apollo was overrated. He almost got beat by a no one from Philly.

Yes, but was that PRIME Creed? I don't know. That was post success Holywood Creed. Same thing happened to Rocky in Rocky III after he beat Creed. He didn't have the Eye of the Tiger anymore.

nice, I was looking to use the eye of the tiger line but nothing came to me
08-07-2013, 07:13 PM
Jerry Rice

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by justaguy

In answer to the question, the man of a thousand nicknames over the 'roided Roosky all day every day.

Drago was strong, but Creed in his prime was faster and craftier than Rocky was with far quicker hands. He would have stung Drago intially while Drago tried to 'break him'.

In fact, if the referee would have done his job, I don't know that Drago beats Creed anyway. The referee should have been banned for life from the sport after allowing a boxer to pick up a guy, throw him in the corner, and keep swinging. There is no excuse for that.

Also Creed had excellent power too. He left us with career numbers of 48-1 (47)

He ducked Lang, and he was literally murdered by Drago.
08-07-2013, 07:43 PM
bradlee180

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

Apollo never ducked Clubber Lang, you guys better lay off the crackpipe.
08-07-2013, 07:48 PM
Jerry Rice

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Originally Posted by bradlee180

Apollo never ducked Clubber Lang, you guys better lay off the crackpipe.

Who fights a glorified sparring partner ?????
08-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Britkid

Re: Could Apollo Creed have beaten Drago in his prime?

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Originally Posted by Jerry Rice

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by justaguy

In answer to the question, the man of a thousand nicknames over the 'roided Roosky all day every day.

Drago was strong, but Creed in his prime was faster and craftier than Rocky was with far quicker hands. He would have stung Drago intially while Drago tried to 'break him'.

In fact, if the referee would have done his job, I don't know that Drago beats Creed anyway. The referee should have been banned for life from the sport after allowing a boxer to pick up a guy, throw him in the corner, and keep swinging. There is no excuse for that.

Also Creed had excellent power too. He left us with career numbers of 48-1 (47)

He ducked Lang, and he was literally murdered by Drago.

He was figuratively murdered by Drago in the ring, and died of his injuries. And I suspect Mr I Drago of 17 Red Square, Moscow, Russia, Soviet Union has a lawyer that will sue your ass, if you suggest anything other than a tragic accident occurred that night.

The then Soviet team did not realize what a 'exhibition' was. The fans should of been 'treated' to ten rounds of boxing with Creed being allowed to exhibit his showboating skills, which surely was what most fans paid for.

Once again boxing fans being forgotten about, let down and short changed, the ring walks lasting longer than the exhibition. When will the promoters ever learn! :mad:
08-07-2013, 11:34 PM
bradlee180

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DiwgnsteNI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6T7MAOdDw

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