I still have a poster for the 1991 clash. :)
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I still have a poster for the 1991 clash. :)
It was good that the Holyfield/Tyson fight finally happened in 1996, and it is a classic fight, but we can only dream what would have happened if the fight had happened 5 years earlier...
Yes the fight was under rated, Tyson nearly knocked him out with the first punch! After 5 rounds Tyson was shot and started trying to get out of the fight. When that was not going to happen he took his beating and went out on his shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180
No poster here, but I have an old mag, Bert Randolph Sugar's Boxing Illustrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It says the Champ Holyfield was guaranteed 30 million and Tyson 15 million, with both getting a percentage of ppv tv receipts. The promoters were anticipating grossing 100 million dollars in Nov 1991. Tyson was an 11-5 favorite at the time of publication, and the Ruddock rematch in June 1991 had already happened.
Hey Master, we all know Buster did have some talent but psychologically, he ran hot-and-cold, sometimes motivated, sometimes not giving a $#!t.
Do you think Buster could have got up from the Holyfield knockdown?
Do you think Buster just decided to stay down knowing he had a 24 million dollar payday win or lose?
I think Holyfeild had Tyson number and he actual won a lot of his big fights and was not crushing cans a lot of his career. I laugh when people say Tyson was not prime because neither was Holyfiled. I mean if i had to call the last prime version i say it was Bowie rematch he won after that Holyfeild had some really bad problems health wise after. Holyfeild was just more solid on his fundamentals then Tyson was so he pretty much outclassed him even though he was older and in worst way when it came to his health.
Definitely Buster could have gotten up and he decided to stay down and collect the cheque without minimal damage. He was going to lose anyway he was not motivated as he was against Tyson. Now that version would have never have gone down in the first place and may have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by bradlee180No poster here, but I have an old mag, Bert Randolph Sugar's Boxing Illustrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It says the Champ Holyfield was guaranteed 30 million and Tyson 15 million, with both getting a percentage of ppv tv receipts. The promoters were anticipating grossing 100 million dollars in Nov 1991. Tyson was an 11-5 favorite at the time of publication, and the Ruddock rematch in June 1991 had already happened.
Hey Master, we all know Buster did have some talent but psychologically, he ran hot-and-cold, sometimes motivated, sometimes not giving a $#!t.
Do you think Buster could have got up from the Holyfield knockdown?
Do you think Buster just decided to stay down knowing he had a 24 million dollar payday win or lose?
Holyfield took steroids to get to the top and stay there and had been active.
For one all we know most boxer have taken steroids even your god Tyson has. Thing is did Holyfeild ever fail a test in 26 years that he been fighting because since he was such a huge user pretty much says it all. As for them fighting i say Holyfield wins anytime was better fighter and had better wins in his career. I dont really think if mike came in the 90's during his prime he would of looked as good to be honest with you. The 90's had alot top fighters including the men who beat him Holyfield and Lewis during the later part was quite good as well.
My god Tyson did not take PED he just took recreational drugs and alcohol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Well master do you think Holyfeild was a ped user because he never failed a test in the 26 years he has been fighting. I mean if Holyfeild can do it i don't doubt a lot of fighters if not all at top level do it and have been for sometime. Also ross love all the excuse you give your boy when he losses i find it funny.
I hate to think any boxer is taking it especially top boxers like Holyfield or Shane. I have never accused them and would not do so unless caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Tell me one other fighter since Tyson that has defended the WBC, WBA and IBF title 6 times?
Do you realise how difficult it is to keep all the titles together and make that many defences? Its very difficult which is why Lewis and Holyfield could not match Mikes dominance.
Wlad now really has no claim to be the top man in his division. Ots a small acheivement that hes managed to hold one title for so long but hes never held all 3 major titles at once.
Ha you dont need to accuse them. Shane admitted taking EPO and Holyfield has admitted buying growth hormone.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI hate to think any boxer is taking it especially top boxers like Holyfield or Shane. I have never accused them and would not do so unless caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I am sure they had their reasons/excuses for it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHa you dont need to accuse them. Shane admitted taking EPO and Holyfield has admitted buying growth hormone.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI hate to think any boxer is taking it especially top boxers like Holyfield or Shane. I have never accused them and would not do so unless caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Shane didnt. He had to admit he knew he was cheating in court. Basically admitted hes a dirty cheating cunt. Shane Mosley Admits to Knowingly Using EPO in Lawsuit Against BALCO's Victor Conte - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI am sure they had their reasons/excuses for it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHa you dont need to accuse them. Shane admitted taking EPO and Holyfield has admitted buying growth hormone.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI hate to think any boxer is taking it especially top boxers like Holyfield or Shane. I have never accused them and would not do so unless caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140