Ricky Burns - Raymundo Beltran this weekend!

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Fenster

This should be a good styles match-up. I reckon the most likely outcome is Burns on PTS, he should be able to play boxer more in this fight compared with last time, however I've been contemplating backing Beltran all week at around the 4/1 mark.

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I think youd be daft to bet on beltran

I don't know anything about him as a boxer but if you study his record he hasn't really beaten anyone of any note and as soon as he steps up to even just below world level he seems to lose

people talk about the lundy win but that was razor close and this is the same fella who just lost all 10 rounds to ajose alusigon (spelling!!)

he could be tough so burns on points is a possibility, I think he might knock him out tho, what are the odds on that?

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One has to be daft to bet on Beltran? :rolleyes: at the same time U say that you dont even know him as a boxer . You make no sense.

You are either ignorant or dont know much about boxing/styles...

You dont study records, you study styles.. I dont mean to knock on you but somebody who makes pick off records is a classic example of a boxrec warrior..

Beltran is one of those fighters who are much better than what his record suggests and some of those losses were borderline robberies while some were close bouts that could have gone his way..

Sharif Bogere fight for instance. I assume you didnt watch that fight but Bogere should have lost his undefeated record to Beltran. He got a gift.

Beltran is a victim of circumstances and he's a whole alot better than his record..

I've slept on Burns but if in fact he is the type who can be out hustled and fails to establish respectable power, he will most likely be in deep doo doo with Beltran. Beltran is far from "your stereo typical face first Meheecan slugger" and knows how to break a guy down and mix his attack. Burns better pack a lunch and get some sleep cause he will not be allowed to rest. What's the actual start time??

burns looked a little uneasy at the weigh in.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Fenster

This should be a good styles match-up. I reckon the most likely outcome is Burns on PTS, he should be able to play boxer more in this fight compared with last time, however I've been contemplating backing Beltran all week at around the 4/1 mark.

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I think youd be daft to bet on beltran

I don't know anything about him as a boxer but if you study his record he hasn't really beaten anyone of any note and as soon as he steps up to even just below world level he seems to lose

people talk about the lundy win but that was razor close and this is the same fella who just lost all 10 rounds to ajose alusigon (spelling!!)

he could be tough so burns on points is a possibility, I think he might knock him out tho, what are the odds on that?

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One has to be daft to bet on Beltran? :rolleyes: at the same time U say that you dont even know him as a boxer . You make no sense.

You are either ignorant or dont know much about boxing/styles...

You dont study records, you study styles.. I dont mean to knock on you but somebody who makes pick off records is a classic example of a boxrec warrior..

Beltran is one of those fighters who are much better than what his record suggests and some of those losses were borderline robberies while some were close bouts that could have gone his way..

Sharif Bogere fight for instance. I assume you didnt watch that fight but Bogere should have lost his undefeated record to Beltran. He got a gift.

Beltran is a victim of circumstances and he's a whole alot better than his record..

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Yes, hell yes and yes!

I will be covering the whole bill tonight from ringside. I will pass a link to all the fight reports through the night when they are ready (site in the signature)

Regarding main event. I expect Ricky to be too good for Beltran. If Beltran doesnt push Burns back then he will get beaten from the outside. Beltran has to get inside where he is incredibly accurate.

Styles makes fights and this will be a good one.

Ricky by late TKO (could be cuts) or wide UD

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I've slept on Burns but if in fact he is the type who can be out hustled and fails to establish respectable power, he will most likely be in deep doo doo with Beltran. Beltran is far from "your stereo typical face first Meheecan slugger" and knows how to break a guy down and mix his attack. Burns better pack a lunch and get some sleep cause he will not be allowed to rest. What's the actual start time??

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Forget what State you are in but its 3 est or noon my time. I think Ricky has gained some pop moving up as there has been much more to his punches. I also think his boxing has improved. The safe bet is a points win but I have a feeling he ends it late.

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I've slept on Burns but if in fact he is the type who can be out hustled and fails to establish respectable power, he will most likely be in deep doo doo with Beltran. Beltran is far from "your stereo typical face first Meheecan slugger" and knows how to break a guy down and mix his attack. Burns better pack a lunch and get some sleep cause he will not be allowed to rest. What's the actual start time??

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Forget what State you are in but its 3 est or noon my time. I think Ricky has gained some pop moving up as there has been much more to his punches. I also think his boxing has improved. The safe bet is a points win but I have a feeling he ends it late.

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Might be able to catch it then. Sure they'll have some links floating around. He just needs to keep high volume and not get sucked into silly macho bs. Beltran has sneaky whipping hooks and good timing inside, but he can also cuts up. Just hope for a quality scrap and no shady shate.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I've slept on Burns but if in fact he is the type who can be out hustled and fails to establish respectable power, he will most likely be in deep doo doo with Beltran. Beltran is far from "your stereo typical face first Meheecan slugger" and knows how to break a guy down and mix his attack. Burns better pack a lunch and get some sleep cause he will not be allowed to rest. What's the actual start time??

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Forget what State you are in but its 3 est or noon my time. I think Ricky has gained some pop moving up as there has been much more to his punches. I also think his boxing has improved. The safe bet is a points win but I have a feeling he ends it late.

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Might be able to catch it then. Sure they'll have some links floating around. He just needs to keep high volume and not get sucked into silly macho bs. Beltran has sneaky whipping hooks and good timing inside, but he can also cuts up. Just hope for a quality scrap and no shady shate.

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Same. There should be links everywhere.

A few pick Beltran to win.

Burns never the favorite whats new,! he gets the job done but does he receive any praise in a
nut shell NO, he's been written off more times than I can count, give him a little credit a good
solid fighter.