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Its sad, but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
To me, and some others on this forum, he is still the best of all time. He was out of this world. As VD was saying, its incomprehensible just how much better he was than everyone else and that included guys like James Toney and Vrigil Hill.
Look at Reggie Johnson's resume and then see how totally outclassed he was by Roy.
Yeah Im Australian but a boxing fan first, it depressed me no end that he was fighting Green and I was devastated that he lost,Roy should never have given it a chance to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
It was ripped fuel and its not a steroid. It was purchased over the counter at drug stores and he was only accused of using it once and it was in the Richard Hall fight. Of course the story spun out of control at the time because his accuser Richard Hall tested 14 times higher then Roy did for the same product.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Roy should have quit after the Ruiz fight instead of tearing down muscle to make 175 at his age. Ego won the day just like it continues to do. I may rank fighters higher then him on weight lists but that's cause he never stayed long but even at those weights like 160 and 168 I dont see anyone in history beating him in his prime. Not many could match him at 175 either except maybe Langford or Charles.
cheers...Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Or Spinks or FosterQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIt was ripped fuel and its not a steroid. It was purchased over the counter at drug stores and he was only accused of using it once and it was in the Richard Hall fight. Of course the story spun out of control at the time because his accuser Richard Hall tested 14 times higher then Roy did for the same product.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Roy should have quit after the Ruiz fight instead of tearing down muscle to make 175 at his age. Ego won the day just like it continues to do. I may rank fighters higher then him on weight lists but that's cause he never stayed long but even at those weights like 160 and 168 I dont see anyone in history beating him in his prime. Not many could match him at 175 either except maybe Langford or Charles.
... Jones came out HOT for anabolic steroids...PERIOD... he was associated with victor conte, as well as Mosely..but was never implicated.. it was predicted that his downfall would be when it was...becuz they started keeping an eye on him... all this is TRUE. What u see is the real jones...
punches no harder than a regular fighter and can't take a punch... on steroids, he breathed on fighters and they went down... u Jones fans ..lol...
I did not know steroids allowed you take a punch betterQuote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug
Cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybugcheers...Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
I like tarvers talk as a commentator but dont like his fighting style.
I think that tarver, as well as age, and as well as the muscle loss was the combination of roys downward spiral.
If it was another clinton woods after ruiz i dont think roy would have had that much of a problem so tarver did have something on Roy but there were other factors imho.
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI did not know steroids allowed you take a punch betterQuote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug
*well it does..and u herd it here first. anyone that say it doesn't if full of shit. boxers on steroids look like machines..unstoppable machines. just cuz it can't be proved doesn't mean it doesn't happen. if u want to keep believing JOnes wasn't on steroids..then fine... I know better. I know that u don't look unstoppable , ko'ing guys with ur hands behind ur back... then,all in a matter of 1 year, u have no power, ur a shadow of ur former self, u can't take a punch...even ko'ed in 1 round. I don't mean to challenge anyones boxing knowledge..BUT, u have to know something is going on, don't u?
Cant see Foster getting to him but Spinks would be a tricky fight for him and the later version of Hopkins who kind of has the same style as Michael or shares many qualities.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterOr Spinks or FosterQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitIt was ripped fuel and its not a steroid. It was purchased over the counter at drug stores and he was only accused of using it once and it was in the Richard Hall fight. Of course the story spun out of control at the time because his accuser Richard Hall tested 14 times higher then Roy did for the same product.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Roy should have quit after the Ruiz fight instead of tearing down muscle to make 175 at his age. Ego won the day just like it continues to do. I may rank fighters higher then him on weight lists but that's cause he never stayed long but even at those weights like 160 and 168 I dont see anyone in history beating him in his prime. Not many could match him at 175 either except maybe Langford or Charles.
Produce the evidence. It should be everywhere or STFU already.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug
On a side note good ole Victor used to play in Traffic. They came in pretty hot on stage sometimes and Victor on that Sax.....
*the evidence is right infront of ur face, fuck head.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitProduce the evidence. It should be everywhere or STFU already.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug
On a side note good ole Victor used to play in Traffic. They came in pretty hot on stage sometimes and Victor on that Sax.....
That is not evidence you fucking tool. Now go away. This is a conversation involving adults not 12 year old rumor mongering girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug*the evidence is right infront of ur face, fuck head.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitProduce the evidence. It should be everywhere or STFU already.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug
On a side note good ole Victor used to play in Traffic. They came in pretty hot on stage sometimes and Victor on that Sax.....
F*<k you, F*<k you, F*<k You ...in the A$$ !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigstinkybug
Outside of the local gossip columnist there is no evidence that Roy Jones was a steroid abuser other then girly guilt by association haters. He did cheat though by using ripped fuel and it was buried under the rug. Even if he did do one cycle and it could be shown that does not mean he juiced his entire career. That is tin foil hat shit and the straps ought to be loosened.