Re: Haye Training/Sparring video
Obviously you can't take much out of a video made by either camp because it can be edited to make their own fighters look good. The one thing I noticed is Haye looks a bit fatter than we're used to seeing him, is ring activity and age gonna catch up with him?
Re: Haye Training/Sparring video
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ross
Now, now!
Don't get too excited. Its Wilder who has a dodgy chin (Haye didn't drop him) and is yet to go beyond 4 rounds! Towers who hasnt fought anyone of note and got helped by the ref a bit in his last fight. Could well have been stopped! Then you have Wach who was just a walking punch bag for Wlad but I suppose at least he has faced a world class fighter;)
Fury's sparring partners would have made Hayes look silly.
Also, as someone else has pointed out, these are the very best moments edited out of all the hours of footage of sparring and to be fair there isn't a lot to show for it really, if it was to show how well he's doing with inexperienced sparring partners;D
Come on now, Wilder ,and Wach are easily better than steve cunnigham and Sprott.
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
Now, now!
Don't get too excited. Its Wilder who has a dodgy chin (Haye didn't drop him) and is yet to go beyond 4 rounds! Towers who hasnt fought anyone of note and got helped by the ref a bit in his last fight. Could well have been stopped! Then you have Wach who was just a walking punch bag for Wlad but I suppose at least he has faced a world class fighter;)
Fury's sparring partners would have made Hayes look silly.
Also, as someone else has pointed out, these are the very best moments edited out of all the hours of footage of sparring and to be fair there isn't a lot to show for it really, if it was to show how well he's doing with inexperienced sparring partners;D
Come on now, Wilder ,and Wach are easily better than steve cunnigham and Sprott.
We know how good Cunningham is, we have no idea about Wilder as he is yet to face a live class body and even go beyond 4 rounds. Also, id bet Sprott gives better sparring than that mummy Wach. Competatively, yeah Wach would probably beat Sprott but Sprott is too experienced, faced everyone, not to be able to offer good sparring. Wach will stand there and take a shot and thats it.
Sprott wasn't in the camp for long, he didn't look in great shape, maybe he couldn't offer Tyson much.
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser. Chambers would also slap Towers silly:cool:
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ross
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser.
Don't be silly now, Cunningham won a vacant IBF title that was stripped from O'Neil Bell after he and Mormeck unified it with the WBC/WBA. Cunningham was never anything to do with Haye's cruiserweight run. He was as bogus a "world" champion as Nathan Cleverly.
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Fenster
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ross
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser.
Don't be silly now, Cunningham won a vacant IBF title that was stripped from O'Neil Bell after he and Mormeck unified it with the WBC/WBA. Cunningham was never anything to do with Haye's cruiserweight run. He was as bogus a "world" champion as Nathan Cleverly.
Or Enzo Mac? Or Valuev?
Re: Haye Training/Sparring video
I'm just curious as to how Ross knows that there was 'hours' of footage that needed to be meticulously edited?
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AdamGB
I'm just curious as to how Ross knows that there was 'hours' of footage that needed to be meticulously edited?
Well how long do you think he spars for in the lead up to a fight? Minutes? He will probably be doing about 2 to 3 hours a week.
Haye would not put a video out that had average, boring, none notable moments in. He's put out out his very best efforts.
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
Now, now!
Don't get too excited. Its Wilder who has a dodgy chin (Haye didn't drop him) and is yet to go beyond 4 rounds! Towers who hasnt fought anyone of note and got helped by the ref a bit in his last fight. Could well have been stopped! Then you have Wach who was just a walking punch bag for Wlad but I suppose at least he has faced a world class fighter;)
Fury's sparring partners would have made Hayes look silly.
Also, as someone else has pointed out, these are the very best moments edited out of all the hours of footage of sparring and to be fair there isn't a lot to show for it really, if it was to show how well he's doing with inexperienced sparring partners;D
Come on now, Wilder ,and Wach are easily better than steve cunnigham and Sprott.
We know how good Cunningham is, we have no idea about Wilder as he is yet to face a live class body and even go beyond 4 rounds. Also, id bet Sprott gives better sparring than that mummy Wach. Competatively, yeah Wach would probably beat Sprott but Sprott is too experienced, faced everyone, not to be able to offer good sparring. Wach will stand there and take a shot and thats it.
Sprott wasn't in the camp for long, he didn't look in great shape, maybe he couldn't offer Tyson much.
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser. Chambers would also slap Towers silly:cool:
Cunningham was a good CW , he isn't any good any more that's why he lost to the Pickey , and Wach would beat fury also . Wilder would do fury in a round.
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ross
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Fenster
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ross
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser.
Don't be silly now, Cunningham won a vacant IBF title that was stripped from O'Neil Bell after he and Mormeck unified it with the WBC/WBA. Cunningham was never anything to do with Haye's cruiserweight run. He was as bogus a "world" champion as Nathan Cleverly.
Or Enzo Mac? Or Valuev?
Correct.
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
Now, now!
Don't get too excited. Its Wilder who has a dodgy chin (Haye didn't drop him) and is yet to go beyond 4 rounds! Towers who hasnt fought anyone of note and got helped by the ref a bit in his last fight. Could well have been stopped! Then you have Wach who was just a walking punch bag for Wlad but I suppose at least he has faced a world class fighter;)
Fury's sparring partners would have made Hayes look silly.
Also, as someone else has pointed out, these are the very best moments edited out of all the hours of footage of sparring and to be fair there isn't a lot to show for it really, if it was to show how well he's doing with inexperienced sparring partners;D
Come on now, Wilder ,and Wach are easily better than steve cunnigham and Sprott.
We know how good Cunningham is, we have no idea about Wilder as he is yet to face a live class body and even go beyond 4 rounds. Also, id bet Sprott gives better sparring than that mummy Wach. Competatively, yeah Wach would probably beat Sprott but Sprott is too experienced, faced everyone, not to be able to offer good sparring. Wach will stand there and take a shot and thats it.
Sprott wasn't in the camp for long, he didn't look in great shape, maybe he couldn't offer Tyson much.
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser. Chambers would also slap Towers silly:cool:
Cunningham was a good CW , he isn't any good any more that's why he lost to the Pickey , and Wach would beat fury also . Wilder would do fury in a round.
He was robbed blind against Adamek who people on here think is in the top 5.
Wach would lose to Chisora. So would Wilder. Wilder will lose to the first live body he faces and hopefully his chance comes against Fury. Tysons doing things the proper and hard way but there is no denying hes earning his ranking.
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smashup
Just stuck this in my facebook. Haye and Wilder were both landing bombs and both wobbled the other many times.
Theres an article about it knocking about and the guy who witnessed the sparring said it was a good job the gloves were big and both had headgear on or their def would have been one man decked.
He goes onto say that Wilder would destroy have in a proper fight and got the better of him and that Haye couldn't deal with his speed and power.
This for me will be exactly like the Maccaranelli fight .
Haye will get him out of there v early . 2 rounds tops.
Post the article mate, I can't find it, love to read it though
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ross
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Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by
ross
Now, now!
Don't get too excited. Its Wilder who has a dodgy chin (Haye didn't drop him) and is yet to go beyond 4 rounds! Towers who hasnt fought anyone of note and got helped by the ref a bit in his last fight. Could well have been stopped! Then you have Wach who was just a walking punch bag for Wlad but I suppose at least he has faced a world class fighter;)
Fury's sparring partners would have made Hayes look silly.
Also, as someone else has pointed out, these are the very best moments edited out of all the hours of footage of sparring and to be fair there isn't a lot to show for it really, if it was to show how well he's doing with inexperienced sparring partners;D
Come on now, Wilder ,and Wach are easily better than steve cunnigham and Sprott.
We know how good Cunningham is, we have no idea about Wilder as he is yet to face a live class body and even go beyond 4 rounds. Also, id bet Sprott gives better sparring than that mummy Wach. Competatively, yeah Wach would probably beat Sprott but Sprott is too experienced, faced everyone, not to be able to offer good sparring. Wach will stand there and take a shot and thats it.
Sprott wasn't in the camp for long, he didn't look in great shape, maybe he couldn't offer Tyson much.
Cunningham would give Haye fits which is why he never tried for the unification against him at cruiser. Chambers would also slap Towers silly:cool:
Cunningham was a good CW , he isn't any good any more that's why he lost to the Pickey , and Wach would beat fury also . Wilder would do fury in a round.
He was robbed blind against Adamek who people on here think is in the top 5.
Wach would lose to Chisora. So would Wilder. Wilder will lose to the first live body he faces and hopefully his chance comes against Fury. Tysons doing things the proper and hard way but there is no denying hes earning his ranking.
I don't think Ademek isworld class , he is another CW which is why it was a close fight (which he lost ), neither are HW'S but Cunnigham still put the Pickey on his arse.
Haye wins this one at a canter , fury is utter crap , a total hype job , no power , no chin , no hope.
FACT.
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Originally Posted by
smashup
Just stuck this in my facebook. Haye and Wilder were both landing bombs and both wobbled the other many times.
Theres an article about it knocking about and the guy who witnessed the sparring said it was a good job the gloves were big and both had headgear on or their def would have been one man decked.
He goes onto say that Wilder would destroy have in a proper fight and got the better of him and that Haye couldn't deal with his speed and power.
This for me will be exactly like the Maccaranelli fight .
Haye will get him out of there v early . 2 rounds tops.
You are completely right my man, its a haye 123 bet again, the only way haye will let this go long is if Fury is actually better than we've all seen, possible but unlikely.