Why do Eastern European fighters hate to fight outside of Germany?

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Originally Posted by Freedom

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Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24

Because their styles are only popular in Eastern Europe and Germany, theres no intrest from the British or American public to see European fighters such as Pulev or Povetkin

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Povetkin stops most of his opponents and is more exciting to watch than Mayweather and many other American boxers.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

They are just not good enough to perform against the american elites on the big stage.

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That's nonsense.

GGG is currently the best MW, Wlad is the best HW, KOvalev could be the best light HW, Adamek was the best CW.

And just wait until you see the next wave, Lomachenko and the others.

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GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama.. But still, he's not the best of the division until he beats Quillin and Martinez...

Kovalev " Could " be, as you said but he's not there yet.. And Adamek " was "...

Lomachenko is an unknown commodity

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

They are just not good enough to perform against the american elites on the big stage.

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Sir, you are trolling again, what really gets me is that you always get a bite. lol You are a Master Fisherman.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama..

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You're implying that the Slavic people of Eastern Europe are an athletically inferior race. Adolf Hitler had similar ideas about us, but then we kicked the Germans ass on the Russian front in WW II.

Boxing ability has nothing to do with race.

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

I always wondered what was up with that?!?! Eastern European fighters hate to fight outside of Germany, or anywhere west of Berlin... why is that??

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Interesting. Geocentric but only for a certain part of the globe. Whens the last time Floyd left Vegas? Ward from Oakland? Or any other prominent fighter from this continent? We act as if the world revolves around us and bitch and complain about others doing the same shit we do. Hbo rarely leaves this continent.

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Originally Posted by Freedom

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama..

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You're implying that the Slavic people of Eastern Europe are an athletically inferior race. Adolf Hitler had similar ideas about us, but then we kicked the Germans ass on the Russian front in WW II.

Boxing ability has nothing to do with race.

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Military action doesn't have much to do with boxing ability either:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Freedom

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

GGG is an exception because he has that Korean blood running through his veins. His mama..

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You're implying that the Slavic people of Eastern Europe are an athletically inferior race. Adolf Hitler had similar ideas about us, but then we kicked the Germans ass on the Russian front in WW II.

Boxing ability has nothing to do with race.

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Certainly not. I was really kidding about Eastern Euro fighters not being good enough but I do feel that they should fight more out of their comfort zone. That's what Im really trying to get at..

I disagree with Boxing not being about race though.. I dont think there is another sport that is more nationalistic than Boxing.

Give Axel Shulz a call, sure he'll tell ya all about it. As has been said, every fighter wishes they were shot callers in there own back yard with a massive fan base. Honestly all the power to them. Henry Maske made a career of it, only to finally lose to a guy who basically made it a point to stay within his State within a Country. Guys like familiar. JC Gomez fought his whole career there and wasn't even born there. Boxing has gone beyond a guy needing to be 'Americanized' to be considered a serious fighter or credible champ and with the mass media available they don't remain just names you have a hard time pronouncing.

Boxing is a niche sport. The key to being a niche sport is carving out a niche to make money. The easiest way to do that is to have local guys fight locally. When guys get big, the easiest way to rile up a fan base is to bring in a guy from somewhere else to fight your local guy. That's why Ward fights in Oakland. You guys don't care, but here in the Bay Area, Ward fights are a big deal. Yeah it's a niche, but that's how the Goosens make money. That's also why the rest of the country doesn't care about Ward. There aren't many crossover stars in boxing, so you have to capitalize locally on guys because your only going to make good money on a fighter for 5 or 6 fights for your typical champion. It's about money and it's not just East Germans so don't judge too harshly.

But there is a reason why the Cuban and Khazak fighters clean up at the Olympics... and a good reason why they don't always make great pro's... and a reason why the USA was dominant at the pro-level in certain weight divisions for years... and why the Mexicans and Eastern Europeans are faring much better these days, much better years all around for Mexican fighters.

What I do not understand is that combat sports are HEAVY in Asia, but they have far fewer international fighters, comparatively speaking, and far fewer champions.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

But there is a reason why the Cuban and Khazak fighters clean up at the Olympics... and a good reason why they don't always make great pro's... and a reason why the USA was dominant at the pro-level in certain weight divisions for years... and why the Mexicans and Eastern Europeans are faring much better these days, much better years all around for Mexican fighters.

What I do not understand is that combat sports are HEAVY in Asia, but they have far fewer international fighters, comparatively speaking, and far fewer champions.
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Yeah cause they mastered the scoring system since they had known nothing else. Imagine if Mongolia had US money for combat sports? Most of the best boxers from eastern Europe have some Mongolian ancestry. Britain has dominated boxing historically more then any other country. Its always intrigued me how a given generation can think they have been the only one. Its the ancestral home of the sport. I dont count Greece.;D

The Cuban least likely to succeed based on pro vs amateur fights absolutely dominated one of the top fighters in the world. Seems at least in his case those 400 amateur fights came in handy. I actually thought it might be his downfall. The golden age of Cuba died years ago buts its nice to see a diamond in the ruff like Rigo come along here and there and not witness the careers of underachievers like Gamboa.