Re: Should unification title bouts be 15 rounds?
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p4pking
Cool again.. I'm a tad curious how they distinguish between deaths from blows or "misadventure", and especially death via "mismatch" for instance:D Sounds like something out of mortal combat. "Your winner by DEATH via 1st round mismatch"
Some here and the weight reduction thing seems dubious. Six cases responsible since 1732? Sorry something is amiss.. That, other, mismatch and unfit could be all together.
Still regardless of their cause criteria 15 rounds does not really seem to be an issue. Yet, it kind of begs the question. How many lives were possibly saved by limiting it to 12? Its still a valid critique because 33 people did die in those rounds. And when you bring in the coddled world we live in I'm not sure fighters could do 15 safely. Some of the draws that needed a 13th round could have resulted in death regardless of the math. Lol I just had a flashback of my first year philosophy proff telling me the only thing statistics prove is that there are other statistics.
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Learned plenty from this thread but my first reaction to 15 rounders is no, I can be bored out of my mind with some 10 rounders and many 12 rounders start me surfing.
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Right, but that's impossible to determine also, as fighters know how many rounds they have to go beforehand. They train for it, and expend/conserve their energy accordingly in the bout. The fact that guys are spent by the end of 12 rounds doesn't say anything towards what would have happened over 15 as the entire approach would have been different for the most part.
I do think the most technically sound fighters would always benefit the more rounds we are talking though. Guys like Mayweather, Hopkins, Toney, Marquez, would have probably reversed a few losses/gotten a lot more stoppages over 15 rounds for sure.
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beenKOed
Learned plenty from this thread but my first reaction to 15 rounders is no, I can be bored out of my mind with some 10 rounders and many 12 rounders start me surfing.
Thats evidence of the era not the distance.
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If a fight is boring, it's boring. Adding rounds certainly isn't going to make it more so. The jealous fan in me wishes all fights still went until someone can't continue;D
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Britkid
I still think some promoter will decide to spin a fight as a 15 rounder, perhaps as a rematch after a 12 round draw. It could work...
Long term though, history suggests we will be, bemoaning the loss of the 12 rounder.
Great post. I missed this bud. I could see this happening about 7 years ago when I started seeing helmets in the sand box.
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p4pking
If a fight is boring, it's boring. Adding rounds certainly isn't going to make it more so. The jealous fan in me wishes all fights still went until someone can't continue;D
I grew up with 15 round barn burners.
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One last thought, I wish we could pole the fighters. Saddo do something about that, please!
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beenKOed
One last thought, I wish we could pole the fighters. Saddo do something about that, please!
Orlando Cruz is fighting this weekend, maybe you could send him a request? Ask Finito for his facebook, I know he wants to pole him to;)
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p4pking
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Originally Posted by
beenKOed
One last thought, I wish we could pole the fighters. Saddo do something about that, please!
Orlando Cruz is fighting this weekend, maybe you could send him a request? Ask Finito for his facebook, I know he wants to pole him to;)
Excuse me sir, my face is a little red. Maybe very red. LOL
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p4pking
Couldn't resist:D
It was well deserved!
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Great idea the 15 rounds should come back without it Rocky would never have been unbeaten, Leonard would never have stooped Hearns.
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Master
Great idea the 15 rounds should come back without it Rocky would never have been unbeaten, Leonard would never have stooped Hearns.
Very true and had the Hagler fight with Leonard been 15 I think Hagler would have got to him. Ray had no legs left.
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Yeah, it is true, old-schoolers were tuffer, old-school was:
"Pushing the limits of human endurance."
The Greek phrase, "The exercise of the full use of your powers along lines of excellence."
Hemingway's "grace under pressure."
Nowadays, it's:
"Stress and how to Cope With It"
"Nurturing Your Inner Child."
"It's Not Your Fault: A Guide for Men On Learning to Forgive Yourself."
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