Take action now- tell Russia : Release the Greenpeace activists

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We can all do something to make a difference. Don't just let them be another face on the news. It takes seconds and can be done in less time than it takes to roll one up or make a cup of tea. Click on the link below and then hit the orange TAKE ACTION NOW button and send a message to those who think they can do what they like to your planet. TELL RUSSIA - RELEASE THE GREENPEACE ACTIVISTS.




Greenpeace UK

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You are bunch of hypocrites
I wish these GREENPEACE BEANS will be taught some lesson

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What would Jesus do?

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Jesus can save the earth from all problems including famine and polution, all attempts of human kind to save themselves are not needed
People hands are too small to solve real problems
Nuff said

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What a cop out. It's OK Daddy will sort everything I can just trash the house and not bother cleaning up after myself. Does not matter if people starve to death it's not me after all and Daddy will sort it out.

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This is not my problem that you understand things too plainly
You can pervert even simple statement if you really not into getting the understanding
No point discussing it with you

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By your one rule applies to everything for spirit and also for earth belief; people here are seeing you in a not so self justified light within Christianity:

A bit like this situation: If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father and leave him there? Or do you lean down and hold out your hand and say brother let me help you out of there, this is not right you should suffer this?

What is the difference between this situation and peaceful people being locked up for false charges of piracy?

The trouble with activism is that there are to many activists. Greenpeace is as big a multinational as those it protests against. It fuels them lol as it did the boat motors and expense they committed to which allowed the protest. Its the very reason Watson quit and the very reason I quit the Sierra Club 25 years ago. Walmart activism. The fossil fuel war ends with the supply. Same with drugs. It remains to be seen whether we witness either.

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The trouble with activism is that there are to many activists. Greenpeace is as big a multinational as those it protests against. It fuels them lol as it did the boat motors and expense they committed to which allowed the protest. Its the very reason Watson quit and the very reason I quit the Sierra Club 25 years ago. Walmart activism. The fossil fuel war ends with the supply. Same with drugs. It remains to be seen whether we witness either.

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Watson and Sea shepherd, gotta love that action its for real; now that can be seen as piracy of sorts.

But Green peace? Like you say, they are far from it, even lame.

Sounds like this piracy action is a legal manipulation from business insiders to drain Greenpeace funds so the same big business can go onto plunder natural reserves unheeded. I bet down the track the lawyers, politicians police etc that keep Greenpeace off their backs will get their big kick backs or future funding taken care of.

there is crazy shit going on in the seas. Japanese with their mile long nets catching anything that gets in its way. The Chinese do the same but they also catch sharks, cut off their fins and throw them back in the sea to drown. Shark fin soup is big in China, I regret to say I had some when I was in China, I just wanted to see what the hype was. I don't know enough about Greenpeace to comment on them but at least they gather evidence about these dastardly deeds many of these countries are doing.

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What is the difference between this situation and peaceful people being locked up for false charges of piracy?

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I do not know about the spiritual background of these "peacefull" people, so I cannot argue here
However, if they believe in the almighty God, they would not bother with this "attempts" to make the corrupted earth better by default or definition of "almighty"

Besides, it is just very naive to believe in "openheartedness" of western, ungodly, money driven people and accept their motives as 100% true

That is a ridiculous statement under the circumstances and then you go on to judge all in the west under one heading, that is not just.

Ill ask you again cause i dont think you got it:

If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father and leave him there or do you lean down and hold out your hand and say brother let me help you out of there?

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If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father

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Bible promises that "all things work together for good in the life of a believer", though "the things" separetely might not be good. If joseph brothers did not put him into the hole ... he might not end up as the second man in Egypt. God used all shit in his life to promote him

lasr but not leasr, God is good and all the time, there is none good but God

@NVSemin IF GOD IS GOOD YOU WISHFUL THINKER YOU---------

How good is it to kill 200 thousand people in an earthquake?
how good is it to annihilate 240 thousand people in a cyclone?
how good is it to sit back and watch the Nazis exterminate 6 million Jews?

Yeah I see how Jesus has really saved this world.

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how good is it to sit back and watch the Nazis exterminate 6 million Jews?

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they did not call upon Jesus help since most of the do not accept him
When things got tougher in the end times, they will turn to Jesus and he will save them

At least get his name right, it was Yeshua.
Oh and while we are at it, Gods Sabbath was and is always on a Saturday.
Rome via the modern Pauline style of Christianity after 300ad changed that for you into Sunday.

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If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father

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Bible promises that "all things work together for good in the life of a believer", though "the things" separetely might not be good. If joseph brothers did not put him into the hole ... he might not end up as the second man in Egypt. God used all shit in his life to promote him

lasr but not leasr, God is good and all the time, there is none good but God

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I asked as a Christian,would you help someone out of a hole or would you leave them there thinking it is the will of God.

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Originally Posted by Andre

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If man is down a hole in the desert do you think it is the will of the Father

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Bible promises that "all things work together for good in the life of a believer", though "the things" separetely might not be good. If joseph brothers did not put him into the hole ... he might not end up as the second man in Egypt. God used all shit in his life to promote him

lasr but not leasr, God is good and all the time, there is none good but God

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I asked as a Christian,would you help someone out of a hole or would you leave them there thinking it is the will of God.

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About Sabbath - since we are no longer under "The Law", it does not matter when it is actually anymore. Nobody needs to keep it
Exact name of Jesus also does not matter, since christianity is not a "religion", but relationship with God,
formality is dagerous

Second, question. I do not have to do it to please God. But if I really can intervene and help, I might, though the chance is little. Happy now? I believe a prayer is the best weapon

Last but not least, we christian have the holy spirit that leads us. There are no ''rules", sometimes it is better to leave the man in the hole, sometimes - better save him. Christians live life, not follow rules and guidances :p

Your older post:

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Yeshua, would not agree with that analogy for Earthly matters. He said you get what you earn and you die by what you live by, which means change or go by the same way you choose. Same with judgment of others;you get judged by the same measurement (rod)you judge others by.

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you take so many stuff out of context. Ask yourself first who he was talking to? He told all these to law-keeping Jews to show that if they want to earn righteousness by the law -keeping - there are no compromises and it gets really hard: "you get what you earn and you die by what you live by, which means change or go by the same way you choose. Same with judgment of others;you get judged by the same measurement (rod)you judge others by".

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He also said not all who call on my name will be saved;that also points to real action and compassion for others being the true way, for the true believers.

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Bullshit. Salvation is only through faith. However, once you get on the right track with God, the fruits of it (not works of it) will be compassion and other nice things

The Roman take over of Christianity was some 300 years after Yeshua walked the Earth. Their rules are the ones modern Christianity still goes by, not the original way of Yeshua who stated love now rules over law.

They took the new testaments original letters and scripts aside and omitted and added to its content during the council of Nicosia, thats a fact.

At that closing they also made a new law that unless you worshiped in the way they worshiped on the days they worshiped and by their new scripts, then you would be dead to them and to God and they would see to it and to all your business and property including all your family members. That is fear that is not Love.Fear is the reverse to love.

That is exactly what these Sunday worshipers inflicted onto millions, then and for many centuries after they burned and killed God loving Christians at the stake,tortured people who dared to worship God in any other way but their (Fear God) the false anti Christ way.

That is the murdering, cash hungry lust for control over others, foundation 90% of modern churches are built upon you go by the exact same scriptures they changed for you. Its is factual history what they have done to the religion of love.

God is Love, that is exactly what Yeshua pointed to.

You are meant to by that same love, want to help a person out of a hole its up to them if they reach for your hand.

Green peace activists are in a hole made by another false law.

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He also said not all who call on my name will be saved;that also points to real action and compassion for others being the true way, for the true believers.

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Bullshit. Salvation is only through faith. However, once you get on the right track with God, the fruits of it (not works of it) will be compassion and other nice things

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Matthew 7:21 – “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven …”

Dont you think that is because those ones who only call on the name, dont walk the walk, they are all talk no action?