I think Benn improved no end in the early 90s, and I am sure he would of given Calzaghe plenty to think about, but in the end I believe Joe would have edged it over 12 rounds.
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I think Benn improved no end in the early 90s, and I am sure he would of given Calzaghe plenty to think about, but in the end I believe Joe would have edged it over 12 rounds.
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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
To be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
At this level of competition weight does not mean much, I have no doubt SSR would beat Roy Jones in 15 rounds in any weight, especially if you let Jones eat like SSR ate in 40-60's without any modern day steroids. There is simply no discussion here. On top of that, I think even SRL would beat Roy, because SRL was just slicker and mentally tougher, he would fool himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
Not a chance! Come on man. Just no.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAt this level of competition weight does not mean much, I have no doubt SSR would beat Roy Jones in 15 rounds in any weight, especially if you let Jones eat like SSR ate in 40-60's without any modern day steroids. There is simply no discussion here. On top of that, I think even SRL would beat Roy, because SRL was just slicker and mentally tougher, he would fool himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
Roy was unorthodox n unbelievably talented, but prime SRR has too many dimensions for Roy. Hagler, BHOP, Leonard most likely beat him also. I do agree that Roy beats Joe prime vs prime, most likely by knockout.
Thought 2nd close, but Benn won it. Likewise if 40 year old Hopkins, Jones and a Mitchell are dropping him with single shots I'd wager that he would be in far worse shape when Benn managed to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntax Error
Joe mixed when he shouldn't and Benn was boxing better at 168. I just don't see all the schooling thought by the many.
Personally, by schooling I do not mean badly beatenQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThought 2nd close, but Benn won it. Likewise if 40 year old Hopkins, Jones and a Mitchell are dropping him with single shots I'd wager that he would be in far worse shape when Benn managed to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntax Error
Joe mixed when he shouldn't and Benn was boxing better at 168. I just don't see all the schooling thought by the many.
Benn might drop Joe once, but Joe would adjust and out box him
Benn was always too one dimensional
Your face is to one dimensional!
Robinson got beat 5 times at middleweight, Roy, Marvin, Monzon and maybe B Hop would have done the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAt this level of competition weight does not mean much, I have no doubt SSR would beat Roy Jones in 15 rounds in any weight, especially if you let Jones eat like SSR ate in 40-60's without any modern day steroids. There is simply no discussion here. On top of that, I think even SRL would beat Roy, because SRL was just slicker and mentally tougher, he would fool himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
As for Leonard at middleweight, he was not great.
You did not get my point. My point was they might have one time success, but SRR would adjust by the rematch and win any amount of fights afterwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterRobinson got beat 5 times at middleweight, Roy, Marvin, Monzon and maybe B Hop would have done the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAt this level of competition weight does not mean much, I have no doubt SSR would beat Roy Jones in 15 rounds in any weight, especially if you let Jones eat like SSR ate in 40-60's without any modern day steroids. There is simply no discussion here. On top of that, I think even SRL would beat Roy, because SRL was just slicker and mentally tougher, he would fool himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
Please, do not add B Hop here, he does not belong to this level
I got your point but did you get mine, he was not as great a middleweight as he was welterweight and he lost to inferior fighters so could adjust and win but not against the great fighters I mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminYou did not get my point. My point was they might have one time success, but SRR would adjust by the rematch and win any amount of fights afterwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterRobinson got beat 5 times at middleweight, Roy, Marvin, Monzon and maybe B Hop would have done the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAt this level of competition weight does not mean much, I have no doubt SSR would beat Roy Jones in 15 rounds in any weight, especially if you let Jones eat like SSR ate in 40-60's without any modern day steroids. There is simply no discussion here. On top of that, I think even SRL would beat Roy, because SRL was just slicker and mentally tougher, he would fool himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
Please, do not add B Hop here, he does not belong to this level
I ahve to admit I do not know the facts well, I study and comeback after a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI got your point but did you get mine, he was not as great a middleweight as he was welterweight and he lost to inferior fighters so could adjust and win but not against the great fighters I mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminYou did not get my point. My point was they might have one time success, but SRR would adjust by the rematch and win any amount of fights afterwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterRobinson got beat 5 times at middleweight, Roy, Marvin, Monzon and maybe B Hop would have done the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminAt this level of competition weight does not mean much, I have no doubt SSR would beat Roy Jones in 15 rounds in any weight, especially if you let Jones eat like SSR ate in 40-60's without any modern day steroids. There is simply no discussion here. On top of that, I think even SRL would beat Roy, because SRL was just slicker and mentally tougher, he would fool himQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo be fair SRR was a welterweight, probably the best ever so to be considered a middleweight great just shows you how great he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by NVSeminQuote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
Jones may have won once against SRR, but there is no way SSR could not have adjusted and defeated him in ANY amount rematches afterwards
Please, do not add B Hop here, he does not belong to this level
The facts are Joe got dropped, but got up to win and regardless what people say he WAS
NEVER OUT BOXED by any one. He was a master boxer yes he could have a off night,! but
all great fighters never look great all the time.
A great fighter and Champion, beam me up Scotty I've had enough BS.:vd:
Why shouldn't Hop be mentioned alongside Monzon, Hagler...etc.?!? At this point in his career I can't see how anyone can still try n discredit his ability n accomplishments.