Re: Selling in boxing- do you think we need that era?
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Originally Posted by
Master
As crap and washed up as Chris Eubanks became after the brutal rights with Benn and Watson, he made great money entertaining people on Sky and fighting crap fighters defence after defence.
Exactly. Why do you think RJJ has been on a semi-successful world tour? From Australia to Russia, etc... he is on the world-wide selling tour of RJJ. :)
Too bad he still thinks of himself as a serious fighter. The days are long gone. Even guys he is supposed to be beating with ease are hurting him.
But, to be real, his fights against Danny Green and the Dennis Lebedev were not fights I would have taken for him. They were serious contenders. Anyone in the top 20 RJJ should NOT be in the ring with.
Re: Selling in boxing- do you think we need that era?
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
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Originally Posted by
Master
As crap and washed up as Chris Eubanks became after the brutal rights with Benn and Watson, he made great money entertaining people on Sky and fighting crap fighters defence after defence.
Exactly. Why do you think RJJ has been on a semi-successful world tour? From Australia to Russia, etc... he is on the world-wide selling tour of RJJ. :)
Too bad he still thinks of himself as a serious fighter. The days are long gone. Even guys he is supposed to be beating with ease are hurting him.
But, to be real, his fights against Danny Green and the Dennis Lebedev were not fights I would have taken for him. They were serious contenders. Anyone in the top 20 RJJ should NOT be in the ring with.
But that is not what you started out saying. That kind of selling ^ has been happening for over a hundred years. I was commenting on the selling of punches that either did not happen like Lampley shouts broadcast after broadcast or fake reactions to meaningless punches. In other words no longer boxing but reality tv.
I like realness likehttp://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...g/arguello.gif orhttp://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...play_image.jpg
Judges have enough problems with the real 10 point must system. Leave the plastic on the shelves with the rest of the toys. They start selling fake shit and I'll drop this sport.
Re: Selling in boxing- do you think we need that era?
When you watch a Gatti vs Ward you get two men who leave the concern of pacing to get the 10 rounds in. They give everything they have each round, they are BOTH exhausted after the final bell rings.
If EVER major bout was fought with that type of desire with the willingness to win every part of every round your question would have no relivance to towards the sport.
If the Mayweathers and Wlads of the sport gave max effort when the bell rang the sport would return to its glory. Instead they're reluctance to give all and simply do as little as possible to win brings no excitement or interest. They're performances are sold as "quality boxing" which has become a phrase used for a cover of "boredom Boxing"!
The big events seem staged because their so predictable just like a "pro wrestling script"!
Can you imagine that Mayweather earns 40mil+ for a set up spar session against opponents predetermined and actually groomed in some cases and then its fed to the public and the public buys it? Amazing, what do Gatti & Ward walk away with? I understand the importance in winning but I also want to see the "real deal" (as in Holyfield) HA!!! I'm tired of the cheaters! Cheaters in the fact that its packaged and sold and the effort is all in the promo not the fight. Mayweather and Canelo wren't even tired at the end of the bout hell they probablt went dancing.........................all the way to the bank off the fans who accept this "pro rastling" type garbage!
So to answer your question,,,,,,........yes its become an event............not a boxing/fight match! Ray
Re: Selling in boxing- do you think we need that era?
Alls i'm saying is "professional fighters" should on some zazz during the fights.