Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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bzkfn
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Ruiz smashes the overrated Fury
Apart from Tyson Fury, Peter Fury & Ross, who actually rates Tyson Fury for him to be overrated?
I dont over rate Fury at all. He has the beating of most of the division and that is the truth. That is not over rating him.
Maybe Haye over rated him;)
What he asked was who apart from peter fury and you rate him, well the answer is nobody, you are blind to the fact that only you rate him , he has a dodgy chin , very little power and is easy to hit. But your love for him prevents you from seeing it.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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Dark Lord Al
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ross
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bzkfn
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Violent Demise
Ruiz smashes the overrated Fury
Apart from Tyson Fury, Peter Fury & Ross, who actually rates Tyson Fury for him to be overrated?
I dont over rate Fury at all. He has the beating of most of the division and that is the truth. That is not over rating him.
Maybe Haye over rated him;)
What he asked was who apart from peter fury and you rate him, well the answer is nobody, you are blind to the fact that only you rate him , he has a dodgy chin , very little power and is easy to hit. But your love for him prevents you from seeing it.
The WBC have him at 8.
The ring have him at 5.
Boxrec has him at 4.
He would have been number 1 in IBF had Haye not fucked him around and hed fought Pulev and beaten him. Even if he lost, he would have been in their top ten.
So Al, stop being bitter because even independant ranking systems have him well up there ;)
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
Fury has had a lot of practice against Ruiz twin brother John McDermott. That has to hold him in good stead.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
Fury has an inflated rating and it does not make him world class , Johnson had fought nobody since vitali , and Cunningham had multiple losses , both are light punchers , which is why they were chosen , anybody with a brain can see that , peter manfredo got a shot at Calzaghe , was he top level no , but he was rated.
Yes fury holds a rating , but he is light punching ,easy to hit and has very little power . That is a fact , and when he fights a world class puncher he will be knocked out very quickly , you seem to take haye pulling out as a victory for fury , the fact is he has run his mouth off so much he will soon have to fight someone with power , and he will get knocked out.
He can have a shot at wlad tomorrow for me because the sooner he fights a puncher the better. He is a big lumbering fool.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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Dark Lord Al
Fury has an inflated rating and it does not make him world class , Johnson had fought nobody since vitali , and Cunningham had multiple losses , both are light punchers , which is why they were chosen , anybody with a brain can see that , peter manfredo got a shot at Calzaghe , was he top level no , but he was rated.
Yes fury holds a rating , but he is light punching ,easy to hit and has very little power . That is a fact , and when he fights a world class puncher he will be knocked out very quickly , you seem to take haye pulling out as a victory for fury , the fact is he has run his mouth off so much he will soon have to fight someone with power , and he will get knocked out.
He can have a shot at wlad tomorrow for me because the sooner he fights a puncher the better. He is a big lumbering fool.
Exactly. Jr is at #2 at 168 and has not even fought at 168. All you need to be ranked in the tanked hev division these days is to join it.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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Dark Lord Al
Fury has an inflated rating and it does not make him world class , Johnson had fought nobody since vitali , and Cunningham had multiple losses , both are light punchers , which is why they were chosen , anybody with a brain can see that , peter manfredo got a shot at Calzaghe , was he top level no , but he was rated.
Yes fury holds a rating , but he is light punching ,easy to hit and has very little power . That is a fact , and when he fights a world class puncher he will be knocked out very quickly , you seem to take haye pulling out as a victory for fury , the fact is he has run his mouth off so much he will soon have to fight someone with power , and he will get knocked out.
He can have a shot at wlad tomorrow for me because the sooner he fights a puncher the better. He is a big lumbering fool.
Exactly. Jr is at #2 at 168 and has not even fought at 168. All you need to be ranked in the tanked hev division these days is to join it.
Or in Tysons case, beat ranked fighters which he has:rolleyes:
I am bitterly disappointed that Fury didn't get to smash Haye! Its no victory for Fury to be lured away from a final eliminator and have a year out!
Fury would have given you lot something new to cry about after he beat Haye. You all thought Froch would have no trouble with Groves;)
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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ross
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IamInuit
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Dark Lord Al
Fury has an inflated rating and it does not make him world class , Johnson had fought nobody since vitali , and Cunningham had multiple losses , both are light punchers , which is why they were chosen , anybody with a brain can see that , peter manfredo got a shot at Calzaghe , was he top level no , but he was rated.
Yes fury holds a rating , but he is light punching ,easy to hit and has very little power . That is a fact , and when he fights a world class puncher he will be knocked out very quickly , you seem to take haye pulling out as a victory for fury , the fact is he has run his mouth off so much he will soon have to fight someone with power , and he will get knocked out.
He can have a shot at wlad tomorrow for me because the sooner he fights a puncher the better. He is a big lumbering fool.
Exactly. Jr is at #2 at 168 and has not even fought at 168. All you need to be ranked in the tanked hev division these days is to join it.
Or in Tysons case, beat ranked fighters which he has:rolleyes:
I am bitterly disappointed that Fury didn't get to smash Haye! Its no victory for Fury to be lured away from a final eliminator and have a year out!
Fury would have given you lot something new to cry about after he beat Haye. You all thought Froch would have no trouble with Groves;)
Firstly we all didn't think that froch would steamroll groves , secondly beating 2 fighters who shouldn't be ranked in the top ten and hand picked because they had no power isn't a great achievement.
Keep watching because he will fail.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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ross
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IamInuit
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Dark Lord Al
Fury has an inflated rating and it does not make him world class , Johnson had fought nobody since vitali , and Cunningham had multiple losses , both are light punchers , which is why they were chosen , anybody with a brain can see that , peter manfredo got a shot at Calzaghe , was he top level no , but he was rated.
Yes fury holds a rating , but he is light punching ,easy to hit and has very little power . That is a fact , and when he fights a world class puncher he will be knocked out very quickly , you seem to take haye pulling out as a victory for fury , the fact is he has run his mouth off so much he will soon have to fight someone with power , and he will get knocked out.
He can have a shot at wlad tomorrow for me because the sooner he fights a puncher the better. He is a big lumbering fool.
Exactly. Jr is at #2 at 168 and has not even fought at 168. All you need to be ranked in the tanked hev division these days is to join it.
Or in Tysons case, beat ranked fighters which he has:rolleyes:
I am bitterly disappointed that Fury didn't get to smash Haye! Its no victory for Fury to be lured away from a final eliminator and have a year out!
Fury would have given you lot something new to cry about after he beat Haye. You all thought Froch would have no trouble with Groves;)
What does that have to do with my response? I picked Froch to shit kick Groves just like 95% of the boxing world. So! What does that have to do with the ratings system in this sport being an absolute fucking joke? And btw did I pick a winner here? No I didn't.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
I just read my prediction on the froch groves fight.
I said I will go with. The champ but groves will give him all types of problems , froch may even have to climb off the floor to win. Froch in 7.
Well once again Ross you are incorrect in your view.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
I rate Fury but I think he does have issues of drink and depression and the Haye mess may have knocked his career which was going well again after a few inconsistent performances. I hope Fury does not think he is a PPV fighter and wanting to command those sums of money for fighting. He should get back to fighting and staying busy.
Ruiz is good but Fury would beat him with relative ease.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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I rate Fury but I think he does have issues of drink and depression and the Haye mess may have knocked his career which was going well again after a few inconsistent performances. I hope Fury does not think he is a PPV fighter and wanting to command those sums of money for fighting. He should get back to fighting and staying busy.
Ruiz is good but Fury would beat him with relative ease.
I have never seen much of Ruiz to pick a winner.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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Master
I rate Fury but I think he does have issues of drink and depression and the Haye mess may have knocked his career which was going well again after a few inconsistent performances. I hope Fury does not think he is a PPV fighter and wanting to command those sums of money for fighting. He should get back to fighting and staying busy.
Ruiz is good but Fury would beat him with relative ease.
Spot on with that, he's got ability but we're still waiting for a defining fight where he puts it all together. I somehow don't think he'll react well post Haye, in the interviews I've seen with him since it all fell through he doesn't look like he's got motivation to stay in shape or train.
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
Ruiz hasn't proven his power at the contender level. Fury has experience and it would be a step back for him
Re: Andy Ruiz calls out the monster, Tyson Fury
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Ruiz hasn't proven his power at the contender level. Fury has experience and it would be a step back for him
The guy should not be allowed to come out public in boxing trunks. He should have been cited in the ring for indecent exposure. The kid is grossly obese , looked like Sponge Bob square pants big ol' fat ass, square body with quick welterweight arms and skinny legs
