Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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erics44
it would be interesting to see what would happen if he came up against a decent tall fighter, i dont think he has yet
McCline 6'6 (KO), Pianetta 6'5 (TKO), Wach 6'7(UD and Wach was on roids), Thompson X2 6'6 (KO, KO), Austin 6'6 (KO), Jefferson 6'6 (KO)...he has an easier time with taller fighters if anything
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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El Kabong
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erics44
it would be interesting to see what would happen if he came up against a decent tall fighter, i dont think he has yet
McCline 6'6 (KO), Pianetta 6'5 (TKO), Wach 6'7(UD and Wach was on roids), Thompson X2 6'6 (KO, KO), Austin 6'6 (KO), Jefferson 6'6 (KO)...he has an easier time with taller fighters if anything
he deals with them easier because they arent as good
the best out of that bunch is thompson and the fights i have seen him in that werent david price he hasnt been great, pulev dealt with him very easily
wlad hasnt yet fought a really dangerous tall world class fighter in his current reign
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
They could fight on the Moon and it wouldn't change the outcome. Wlad will beat Pulev, FACT. Povetkin landed 35/172 of power punches....that's 20%.....yes, "easy" :rolleyes: . It doesn't matter if he fights Leapai first or Pulev first neither guy will cause Wlad much trouble.
I've seen Wlad's set for a fight in March but they haven't settled on who he's fighting yet, you say Leapai fine whatever it doesn't make a difference. If the WBO mandates that he has to defend that title first then he'll do it to keep his title, not out of personal preference you dope.
"By definition he avoided" blah blah blah....Pulev is nothing special. Wins in the amateurs, big fucking deal. Povetkin had a gold medal, shit Audley Harrison had a gold medal so it doesn't mean he's going to be a phenomenal fighter.
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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El Kabong
They could fight on the Moon and it wouldn't change the outcome. Wlad will beat Pulev, FACT. Povetkin landed 35/172 of power punches....that's 20%.....yes, "easy" :rolleyes: . It doesn't matter if he fights Leapai first or Pulev first neither guy will cause Wlad much trouble.
I've seen Wlad's set for a fight in March but they haven't settled on who he's fighting yet, you say Leapai fine whatever it doesn't make a difference. If the WBO mandates that he has to defend that title first then he'll do it to keep his title, not out of personal preference you dope.
"By definition he avoided" blah blah blah....Pulev is nothing special. Wins in the amateurs, big fucking deal. Povetkin had a gold medal, shit Audley Harrison had a gold medal so it doesn't mean he's going to be a phenomenal fighter.
its not a fact its an opinion
it is my opinion that under the rules and conditions wlads fights normally occur under i would agree with you
under the rules a boxing fight would normally happen under i think it could be a close fight
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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erics44
its not a fact its an opinion
it is my opinion that under the rules and conditions wlads fights normally occur under i would agree with you
under the rules a boxing fight would normally happen under i think it could be a close fight
Trust me, it's a fact. Also, it's only a foul when the ref calls it...what about that escapes your tiny ginger brain? When the ref says "stop that" and takes away a point it has yet to affect Wlad's performances. All he does is win and whether he's being cagey and bending the rules or fighting 100% within the rules he's winning.
But you keep complaining about it, it's enjoyable to see that it upsets you so much
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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El Kabong
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erics44
its not a fact its an opinion
it is my opinion that under the rules and conditions wlads fights normally occur under i would agree with you
under the rules a boxing fight would normally happen under i think it could be a close fight
Trust me, it's a fact. Also, it's only a foul when the ref calls it...what about that escapes your tiny ginger brain? When the ref says "stop that" and takes away a point it has yet to affect Wlad's performances. All he does is win and whether he's being cagey and bending the rules or fighting 100% within the rules he's winning.
But you keep complaining about it, it's enjoyable to see that it upsets you so much
its not a fact
we are all going to die, that is a fact
i currently have a cup of tea on my desk, thats a fact
the majority colour on my car is silver, thats a fact
klitchko will beat pulev isnt a fact
Sven Ottke was given gift after gift in his fights, he also generated a lot of money for a lot of people, these two things being linked could well be fact but for most it is just opinion
Wlad Klitchko continually being allowed to foul in his fights, he also generates massive amounts of money, these two things being linked could well be fact but for most it is just opinion
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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erics44
Sven Ottke was given gift after gift in his fights, he also generated a lot of money for a lot of people, these two things being linked could well be fact but for most it is just opinion
Wlad Klitchko continually being allowed to foul in his fights, he also generates massive amounts of money, these two things being linked could well be fact but for most it is just opinion
So you're saying just because Wlad packs the house he's allowed to foul and allowed to win only because he makes money? The comparison to Svenn Ottke is ridiculous for various reasons mainly because Wlad hasn't been coddled by any sanctioning body, he fights the best fighters that are out there while Ottke did not. Wlad is also willing to travel for the right price, he was going to fight Haye in Stamford Bridge but HAYE couldn't land the Bridge to make it happen.
But the crux of your argument is that Wlad is allowed (by mysterious powerful people who control the sport) to win because of the money he generates....do you not think an American heavyweight like Deontay Wilder could make that kind of money if you just put a belt on him? Or wouldn't David Haye and his massive amounts of fans :rolleyes: make more money?
Keep hating eric
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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Kingedwards
3. I have read wlad had a choice between Alex and Pulev he chose Alex bottom line he took the easier fight.
Kubrat has been a mandatory for over a damn year.
He had a choice to fight Alex or Pulev next now I think wlad would probably hug his way too victory vs either but by definition he avoided Pulev.
Right I'm no Wlad nuthugger, I can't stand him, I hate watching him fight and I can't wait for him to lose but to accuse him of ducking is utter bullshit. Wlad has 3 titles, so thus he has 3 mandatories. The WBO have called purse bids for the Leapai fight, the IBF have not called it yet. So if he wants to unify the division and keep his belts, he fights the mandatory that has been called first. I am near certain that if the IBF call for negotiations for the Pulev fight then Wlad will fight him rather than vacate since he has met every mandatory requirement thus far. In fact, I bet he fights Pulev after he fights Leapai. It isn't a choice, it is a forced mandatory. If he had both mandatories at the same time and he picked Leapai, the IBF would strip him. The FACT they haven't called for the purse bid should have you blaming the IBF, not Wlad. Wlad will fight whichever mandatory he has to. How is that difficult to understand?
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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Originally Posted by
erics44
wlad hasnt yet fought a really dangerous tall world class fighter in his current reign
What is your definition of "world class"? All those guys that Kabong listed were consensus/Ring magazine top 10 guys when he fought them.
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
Sorry I did not realise Pulev was so tall.
The taller guys Wlad has fought have not been bums whoever said that.
He simply has better "boxing" matches with them.
Thompson was a great fighter. In fact although Wlad won clearly round wise, Punch stats reveal Thompson actually outlanded Wlad. Punch speed and punch power won him the fight!
McCline was beaten not long after he wiped out Michael Grant only months after he was beaten by Lewis (=prime Grant).
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
Sven Ottke was given gift after gift in his fights, he also generated a lot of money for a lot of people, these two things being linked could well be fact but for most it is just opinion
Wlad Klitchko continually being allowed to foul in his fights, he also generates massive amounts of money, these two things being linked could well be fact but for most it is just opinion
So you're saying just because Wlad packs the house he's allowed to foul and allowed to win only because he makes money? The comparison to Svenn Ottke is ridiculous for various reasons mainly because Wlad hasn't been coddled by any sanctioning body, he fights the best fighters that are out there while Ottke did not. Wlad is also willing to travel for the right price, he was going to fight Haye in Stamford Bridge but HAYE couldn't land the Bridge to make it happen.
But the crux of your argument is that Wlad is allowed (by mysterious powerful people who control the sport) to win because of the money he generates....do you not think an American heavyweight like Deontay Wilder could make that kind of money if you just put a belt on him? Or wouldn't David Haye and his massive amounts of fans :rolleyes: make more money?
Keep hating eric
yup thats the crux of my argument
appart from the fact that its absolutely clear as day that this is happening your last paragraph only compounds my argument
no wilder wouldnt make that sort of money, not without being champ for a while, and there isnt the potential for longerity with haye or wilder that there is with wlad
wlad is the perfect cash cow and if he lost a lot of people would be out of pocket and as a result they wont let him lose
i long for the day that he is caught in a fight and/or under a bit of pressure and not because i think he will lose but because i think we will see the lengths that the ref/judges/ringside officials go to to ensure he gets through the fight with a victory
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
erics44
wlad hasnt yet fought a really dangerous tall world class fighter in his current reign
What is your definition of "world class"? All those guys that Kabong listed were consensus/Ring magazine top 10 guys when he fought them.
ok saying they are not world class is harsh, but looking at the list you wouldnt say any of them wouild be a good world champion, they are the type of fighters that might get lucky with a fight and nick a belt
they are good contenders
Re: Wlad is running from Pulev he picked the Aussie for his next fight stop running w
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erics44
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Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by
erics44
wlad hasnt yet fought a really dangerous tall world class fighter in his current reign
What is your definition of "world class"? All those guys that Kabong listed were consensus/Ring magazine top 10 guys when he fought them.
ok saying they are not world class is harsh, but looking at the list you wouldnt say any of them wouild be a good world champion, they are the type of fighters that might get lucky with a fight and nick a belt
they are good contenders
The problem is there aren't really any dangerous world class fighters out there right now. Wlad is beating what is in front of him. I don't like it, I just accept it for what it is.
