Re: Which generation is better?
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Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins
Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
Not only would the old gen beat the new gen in a Brit on Brit contest but the 4 of them would be at the top of the food chain against anyone today from 160 to 168 regardless of nationality. Actually the more I think about it, Ward is probably the only exception. Outside of Collins/Watson the other admirable thing is that they all fought each other. They all would have been a handful for Jones also. Especially Eubanks imo.
I actually thing Benn would have given more problems to Jones. Roy would have simply out boxed Chris and not taken any risks. Eubanks could be out boxed and was vulnerable to body shots which is why I think Mike McCallum would have stopped Chris.
i dont think anyone would have stopped chris in his pomp
Re: Which generation is better?
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Barker, Macklin, Murray and Lee
v Benn, Eubanks, Watson and Collins
Combinations that would make the best fights and who would come out on top?
Not only would the old gen beat the new gen in a Brit on Brit contest but the 4 of them would be at the top of the food chain against anyone today from 160 to 168 regardless of nationality. Actually the more I think about it, Ward is probably the only exception. Outside of Collins/Watson the other admirable thing is that they all fought each other. They all would have been a handful for Jones also. Especially Eubanks imo.
I actually thing Benn would have given more problems to Jones. Roy would have simply out boxed Chris and not taken any risks. Eubanks could be out boxed and was vulnerable to body shots which is why I think Mike McCallum would have stopped Chris.
i dont think anyone would have stopped chris in his pomp
Not only did he inow how to ride shots and take the sting out, he had a fucking fantastic chin if he was caught clean and then when he was hurt he had that animal in him that would fight back harder and not just put his gloves up around his face like Groves or Jones.
It was unfortunate that the Watson thing happened. It made Chris think too much about the consequences and softened him a bit. Rather than go for a KO, he would coast purposefully to go to points amd it would often lead to draws.
Re: Which generation is better?
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Not only did he inow how to ride shots and take the sting out, he had a fucking fantastic chin if he was caught clean and then when he was hurt he had that animal in him that would fight back harder and not just put his gloves up around his face like Groves or Jones.
It was unfortunate that the Watson thing happened. It made Chris think too much about the consequences and softened him a bit. Rather than go for a KO, he would coast purposefully to go to points amd it would often lead to draws.
I think a lot of knockouts happen because fighters are tired too, eubank didnt ever expend any uneccessary energy and it never got to the point where punches would do the kind of damamge to KO him due to fatigue
all this meant he was almost unknockoutable by head punches, the only time he showed any kind of weakness was to body shots, but you couldnt exactly call this a weekness
he went down to watson from a body shot, and collins but the collins one was more due to balance as i remember it, its been a while since i have seen any eubank fights so you could probably correct me but i dont remember any other body shots that put him down.
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Not only did he inow how to ride shots and take the sting out, he had a fucking fantastic chin if he was caught clean and then when he was hurt he had that animal in him that would fight back harder and not just put his gloves up around his face like Groves or Jones.
It was unfortunate that the Watson thing happened. It made Chris think too much about the consequences and softened him a bit. Rather than go for a KO, he would coast purposefully to go to points amd it would often lead to draws.
I think a lot of knockouts happen because fighters are tired too, eubank didnt ever expend any uneccessary energy and it never got to the point where punches would do the kind of damamge to KO him due to fatigue
all this meant he was almost unknockoutable by head punches, the only time he showed any kind of weakness was to body shots, but you couldnt exactly call this a weekness
he went down to watson from a body shot, and collins but the collins one was more due to balance as i remember it, its been a while since i have seen any eubank fights so you could probably correct me but i dont remember any other body shots that put him down.
I said it on this forum a few years ago and its sort of unrelated but there was a couple of knockdowns, maybe only one that Eubank should have been awarded in the Collins rematch, it was a genuine knockdown and Collins bluffed the ref running over to wipe his gloves on the refs shirt. The knockdown awarded to Collins was bullshit, you could see Eubank lost his balance.
Also, was the knockdown of Collins in the 10th actually scored in the original fight?
Re: Which generation is better?
I agree Eubanks chin is up there with Hagler and La Motta. Anyone who carries his hands that low and take the full blooded shot from Benn and not wobble must have an exceptional chin.
Howvere even Benn hurt him with a body shot in that fight. Mike Mcallum that stopped Watson could have done the same to Chris with body shots. Either way he would have been out boxed by him.
