Curtis Stevens calls out Kid Chocolate for Brooklyn bragging rights

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

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sorry but Martinez is in no way #2 until he gets dropped down from #1, he's the REAL LINEAL Champion, hence no one can be above him until he loses

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Lol. Strange he decided to fight Cotto next rather then GGG. Nice and easy way to stay number 1

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Cotto fight has yet to be confirmed yet, and the guy hasn't ducked a single person at 160, he's been out with an injury, his resume at 160 is still better than GGG :-\ so don't get what you're huffing and puffing about, Pavlik, Williams, Barker, Macklin, Chavez Jr, and Murray back to back is a lot better than Ouma, Simon, Fuchigami, Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, and Stevens

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His manager came out and said he doesnt want GGG. Actions speak louder then words. Im a huge fan of Martinez but he looks past it. Can still beat most of the top guys but GGG flattens him.

Comparing opponents isnt much use since u are comparing guys from 4 years ago. Since 2011 he has fought Dziniruk, Barker, Macklin, Chavez and Murray. In my opinion Stevens beats all of them. (chavez maybe not). He also looked pretty poor against Barker, Macklin and Murray coming from behind to win by stoppage in 2 of them and getting a lucky decision against Murray. GGG on the other hand has been impressive with his wins.

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against lesser opposition, cause IMO Martinez would have handled Rosado just as easy, you also forget to mention that Martinez is NOT a natural middleweight, GGG easily could be fighting at 168, and you're giving Stevens TOO much credit, this is the same guy who lost to Jesse Brinkley from The Contender in a somewhat one sided fight :-\ so wouldn't say he'd beat any of them with certainty

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

sorry but Martinez is in no way #2 until he gets dropped down from #1, he's the REAL LINEAL Champion, hence no one can be above him until he loses

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Lol. Strange he decided to fight Cotto next rather then GGG. Nice and easy way to stay number 1

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Cotto fight has yet to be confirmed yet, and the guy hasn't ducked a single person at 160, he's been out with an injury, his resume at 160 is still better than GGG :-\ so don't get what you're huffing and puffing about, Pavlik, Williams, Barker, Macklin, Chavez Jr, and Murray back to back is a lot better than Ouma, Simon, Fuchigami, Proksa, Rosado, Ishida, Macklin, and Stevens

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His manager came out and said he doesnt want GGG. Actions speak louder then words. Im a huge fan of Martinez but he looks past it. Can still beat most of the top guys but GGG flattens him.

Comparing opponents isnt much use since u are comparing guys from 4 years ago. Since 2011 he has fought Dziniruk, Barker, Macklin, Chavez and Murray. In my opinion Stevens beats all of them. (chavez maybe not). He also looked pretty poor against Barker, Macklin and Murray coming from behind to win by stoppage in 2 of them and getting a lucky decision against Murray. GGG on the other hand has been impressive with his wins.

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against lesser opposition, cause IMO Martinez would have handled Rosado just as easy, you also forget to mention that Martinez is NOT a natural middleweight, GGG easily could be fighting at 168, and you're giving Stevens TOO much credit, this is the same guy who lost to Jesse Brinkley from The Contender in a somewhat one sided fight :-\ so wouldn't say he'd beat any of them with certainty

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Macklin, Barker and Murray are all similar standard fighters. Judgin by what GGG he would do the same to barker. Murray might put up a better fight but certainly wouldn't come close to beating him. Chavez just barely beat Vera so that shows how good he is. Rosado put up great fight against Quillin and GGG beat him easy when he was sick. Regarding weight GGG is a middleweight not super middle. The talk of him going up is due to how good he is, not his size. I'm pretty certain he could make light middle if needed. Don't get me wrong Martinez was a great champ an in his prime he probably beats GGG but not at this late stage of his career

If it weren't for Golovkin existing this would be a top pick.