Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
I hope Salido does a number on him but I think Lomachenko will be too good :-\ some see his record as 7-0 :p
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
I have never ranked a professional fighter using a amatuer record and I won't start this year. Howard Davis also fought without headgear and was a top notch amatuer..how'd that pro super stardom turn out? Lomanchenko looks like he knows the road and was good with Rameriez but to make Rameriez out to be some established qualifier for a title shot "earned" is silly man. There is ZERO wrong with a guy practicing-showcasing his pro craft and building from journeymen, gatekeepers, contenders and then "champions". As long as its not a boat load of zombies like a certain heavyweight. Build a fan base with people still looking up 2,3 times just to spell his fookin name right. Right now..Lomanchenko has zero room to go backwards or adjust IF shit hits the fan vs Salido or any other same level guy at 3-0. You think Arum is going to have his back if the house collaspes??? What is helping him as much as gold medals and some talent is a big wide grinning Arum tapping his deep fat pockets and positioning a mirror on himself. Lomo needs to look long term with his apparent ability, think beyond some meaningless trivia question regarding a trinket with as many miles as a used Chevy Buick.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
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I have never ranked a professional fighter using a amatuer record and I won't start this year. Howard Davis also fought without headgear and was a top notch amatuer..how'd that pro super stardom turn out? Lomanchenko looks like he knows the road and was good with Rameriez but to make Rameriez out to be some established qualifier for a title shot "earned" is silly man. There is ZERO wrong with a guy practicing-showcasing his pro craft and building from journeymen, gatekeepers, contenders and then "champions". As long as its not a boat load of zombies like a certain heavyweight. Build a fan base with people still looking up 2,3 times just to spell his fookin name right. Right now..Lomanchenko has zero room to go backwards or adjust IF shit hits the fan vs Salido or any other same level guy at 3-0. You think Arum is going to have his back if the house collaspes??? What is helping him as much as gold medals and some talent is a big wide grinning Arum tapping his deep fat pockets and positioning a mirror on himself. Lomo needs to look long term with his apparent ability, think beyond some meaningless trivia question regarding a trinket with as many miles as a used Chevy Buick.
I think Lomo is looking at this long term in one way/ he knows the risk is huge but if he pulls it off hes immediately a star most likely and will have accomplished something nobody else has. This will lead to some pretty big paydays in the not to distant future and if everything goes to plan he probably could retire a rich man after just a ten fight career...I'd rather see a more tempered approach but I am not going to knock a dude for having supreme confidence.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
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I have never ranked a professional fighter using a amatuer record and I won't start this year. Howard Davis also fought without headgear and was a top notch amatuer..how'd that pro super stardom turn out? Lomanchenko looks like he knows the road and was good with Rameriez but to make Rameriez out to be some established qualifier for a title shot "earned" is silly man. There is ZERO wrong with a guy practicing-showcasing his pro craft and building from journeymen, gatekeepers, contenders and then "champions". As long as its not a boat load of zombies like a certain heavyweight. Build a fan base with people still looking up 2,3 times just to spell his fookin name right. Right now..Lomanchenko has zero room to go backwards or adjust IF shit hits the fan vs Salido or any other same level guy at 3-0. You think Arum is going to have his back if the house collaspes??? What is helping him as much as gold medals and some talent is a big wide grinning Arum tapping his deep fat pockets and positioning a mirror on himself. Lomo needs to look long term with his apparent ability, think beyond some meaningless trivia question regarding a trinket with as many miles as a used Chevy Buick.
I think Lomo is looking at this long term in one way/ he knows the risk is huge but if he pulls it off hes immediately a star most likely and will have accomplished something nobody else has. This will lead to some pretty big paydays in the not to distant future and if everything goes to plan he probably could retire a rich man after just a ten fight career...I'd rather see a more tempered approach but I am not going to knock a dude for having supreme confidence.
Microwave approach. Hes already being given star status. I don't doubt his confidence but the afforded red carpet oppurtunity has just as much to do with it, lets just be honest. Salido made to do promo pics one hour after HIS trinket win ;D Its a set up man, its a hoodwink.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
I can see both sides. There are many contenders Lomachenko (there's no N guys) could have built his name and following against, but Salido is a door he can step through into super-star status :-\ that is where the interest lies ;D
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
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Spicoli
I have never ranked a professional fighter using a amatuer record and I won't start this year. Howard Davis also fought without headgear and was a top notch amatuer..how'd that pro super stardom turn out? Lomanchenko looks like he knows the road and was good with Rameriez but to make Rameriez out to be some established qualifier for a title shot "earned" is silly man. There is ZERO wrong with a guy practicing-showcasing his pro craft and building from journeymen, gatekeepers, contenders and then "champions". As long as its not a boat load of zombies like a certain heavyweight. Build a fan base with people still looking up 2,3 times just to spell his fookin name right. Right now..Lomanchenko has zero room to go backwards or adjust IF shit hits the fan vs Salido or any other same level guy at 3-0. You think Arum is going to have his back if the house collaspes??? What is helping him as much as gold medals and some talent is a big wide grinning Arum tapping his deep fat pockets and positioning a mirror on himself. Lomo needs to look long term with his apparent ability, think beyond some meaningless trivia question regarding a trinket with as many miles as a used Chevy Buick.
I think Lomo is looking at this long term in one way/ he knows the risk is huge but if he pulls it off hes immediately a star most likely and will have accomplished something nobody else has. This will lead to some pretty big paydays in the not to distant future and if everything goes to plan he probably could retire a rich man after just a ten fight career...I'd rather see a more tempered approach but I am not going to knock a dude for having supreme confidence.
Microwave approach. Hes already being given star status. I don't doubt his confidence but the afforded red carpet oppurtunity has just as much to do with it, lets just be honest. Salido made to do promo pics one hour after HIS trinket win ;D Its a set up man, its a hoodwink.
Yeah he's being given somewhat of a red carpet status but hell so are many other big name amateurs that go into the pros and then fight nobodies. Isnt that chinese fella headlining huge cards over in china fighting nobodies? Lomachenko could do the same thing most likely in his native ukraine, or possibly germany since they seem to have hard ons for every eastern euro fighter. Salido is no joke and if lomachenko soundly beats him, or hell even legitimately scrapes by then that is a big accomplishment.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
i just dont think that he has earned a shot at the title yet. although he easily beat ramirez in his first pro fight (which is impressive), ramirez was still a nobody. he hadnt beaten anybody with any sort of name at all and lost to worthless fighters. i have no idea who will win since i havent watched loma's amateur fights but i would have to think that salido would win. if loma can overcome the tenacity of salido, i will be very surprised and will then admit that he is the real deal.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
I can't understand why anyone objects to this matchup, it's exciting and good for boxing. If it's the fact that Loma hasn't earned a title shot, should it not matter how Salido won the thing then? He fought for the same vacant belt that Mikey Garcia pummelled him to take just months before, against Orlando Cruz, who had never done anything. If the WBO strap hadn't been on the line in that fight, would anyone complain about Loma getting the chance to fight Salido now?
How can people consistently declare how useless all these trinkets are, and then have a problem with a good crossroads fight happening, because one of them happens to be on the line:confused: Fighters make the belts, Salido is a weak and old champ who would probably lose to a dozen fighters in his division quite clearly. I imagine Loma will completely wreck him.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
Agree with p4p. This will be a great matchup. Salido is going to come forward no matter what he is taking. It should be an exciting fight. Yeah Loma is getting a shot early but these guys are game, they deserve each other.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
the big question is, what happens if loma loses? will he start fighting easier fights to gain experience? i think that losing a fight like this could be bad for his career. so much hype yet if he loses, he could just become a good prospect.
Re: Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014
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Loma has already competed in those ams tournaments without headgear so actually he's more experienced than his pro record indicates..
Orlando feels disrespected and I hope he wrecks loma..
I hope Loma retires that cheat
Cheat? Please elaborate
Tested positive for nandrolone after the Guerrero fight.
