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First off, I don't think Chisora will get by Johnson unless he gets a dodgy decision (which is totally likely).
But if they fight I have Fury by late stoppage for a few reasons.
1. Chisora is an aging pressure fighter with little to no power
2. Fury will be confident from his previous win over Chisora and will probably look to build upon the previous win over him.
3. Fury may be dumb, but Chisora is mentally unstable to the point it will cost him in big fights.
Fury hasnt got a great chin I dont think there's any denying that but he tends to recover OK, average hitters might get him in a bit of bother, even floor him but he tends to get up or work through it alright. Chisora isnt going to hit him with blinding speed or power like a David Haye would/could have so I dont see him sparking Fury out. He'll get a few clumps in and maybe shake Fury up and have him stumbling about and grabbing on a bit. Ultimately though I think its a repeat of fight one.
im surprised at the lack of people going for chiz on points
When was the last time he won a decision?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Really? His best showing was against Helenius and that was going on 2-3 years ago. His biggest win since then was a stoppage of Malik "I just recently started fighting decent opponents" Scott, and again pressure fighters don't improve with age.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by rossWhen was the last time he won a decision?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
its just the way i see it, i think they are both on a similar level as fighters, i think chiz has a better boxing style that could work against the better fighters around but his lack of power lefts him downQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongReally? His best showing was against Helenius and that was going on 2-3 years ago. His biggest win since then was a stoppage of Malik "I just recently started fighting decent opponents" Scott, and again pressure fighters don't improve with age.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
i think fury is big and probably hits a big harder, or at least with his size and weight can be more dangerous but not quite as skilled
i really dont think fury has fought anyone as good as chiz in the pros (sounds strange as they have fought each other)
id be suprised if the bookies have fury as fav, are there odds out yet?
You wait and watch Chisoras next fight... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhen was the last time he won a decision?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
its just the way i see it, i think they are both on a similar level as fighters, i think chiz has a better boxing style that could work against the better fighters around but his lack of power lefts him downQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongReally? His best showing was against Helenius and that was going on 2-3 years ago. His biggest win since then was a stoppage of Malik "I just recently started fighting decent opponents" Scott, and again pressure fighters don't improve with age.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
i think fury is big and probably hits a big harder, or at least with his size and weight can be more dangerous but not quite as skilled
i really dont think fury has fought anyone as good as chiz in the pros (sounds strange as they have fought each other)
id be suprised if the bookies have fury as fav, are there odds out yet?
I voted even.
Hard to guess when Chisora is essentially a completely different fighter now.
Chisora lost the first fight and I don't see any progression from him to suggest he'll win again, the only people he's beaten are European journeyman and he hasn't looked amazing doing that.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24
Fury has hardly progressed. If not punching yourself in the face is progression then he is a jammy bastard to be toasted for it. Chisora on points is entirely reasonable.
Just to be controversial, this is a bit like the Italian SAS - who cares who wins?
They are both bloody useless and we are being bamboozled by fat Mick and Terry Marsh's target practice Warren's hype.
Equality for england! Our heavyweights are just as bad as everybody elses!
I wish I could get older quicker and move on to a more useful batch of heavyweights, ask your mates in the pub, they've never even heard of Tyson bloody Fury or Derek Chisora, even though to his credit Chis fought a Klit for a real world title.
Doomed, we're all doomed! British heavyweights are fucked, for the moment........
I really think you are totally wrong about chisora v johnson... when johnson fought vitali he barley punched or did anything and he's just got older since then. He looked worse v tyson fury too.. I can't see anyway johnson beats chisora unless he becomes a totally different boxer :SQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
as for fury v chisora I think fury is a bit of a donkey but he is not without upside and I think his alright ability and large size will overcome chisora again for a points win. I hope this fight happens soon, I think it will make for an entertaining contest and then the winner can go onto bigger and better things afterwards
Tyson
Its funny!
I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury;D
Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!
Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it;)
As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!