All time P4P, where is Floyd?

I am from the us and i have to disagree with you Beanflicker the ppv have been going down. UFC is peaking read sherdog or other sites the sport not going to take over. Also Boxing still has the money i mean Klistcho's make more money then Silva, Jones and Gsp put together. Its not big anywere else but usa its died out in other countries mma is never going take over because its rules make lay and pray a way to win. Its not like a streat fight anymore it has alot of fucking rules and Cain ain't the baddest man around i mean he avenged his lose but he was iced by a guy with ok boxing ability i think you are going way overboard dude. The atheletes in mma arent even A class really maybe a few but thats about it. I mean if mma doesn't go world wide which i pretty sure it wont then how can it take over.

Top 10 obviously. And probably number 1 or 2. Only prime May vs prime Manny could have determined that one but sadly we will never know who the greatest boxer was :(

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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

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Too early to rank, his career ain't over yet.

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Take a chance my fellow boxing fan, where is he going to wind up. I think top 15 now and if he keeps the ZERO, top 10.

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I dont think keeping the 0 moves him up. No doubt he is the best boxer of our generation but he has been handpicking his opponents late in his career to ensure he keeps his 0. I mean take for example Sugar Ray. Finished his career with 20 losses or so but I dont think that makes much of a difference to his legacy. The majority of these losses were well after he past his best and just needed the money. Floyd aint gonna have to do that.

Fighters Id have ahead of him are the 2 sugar rays, Duran and Hagler. Theres probably more but havent seen much footage of all the old guys so dont want to comment. I also think that Rigo could be better then him too and if he can move up in weight and beat some of the best at featherweight there is certainly an argument. Did Floyd ever fight anyone as dangerous as Donaire? Corrales maybe?

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I'm not willing to say the ZERO doesn't mean that much or can be dismissed that easily. Even though Floyd has shopped around for some easy fights, the 0 would be impressive in any era, after 45 fights.
If anyone thinks boxers don't take easy fights throughout their careers, they are fooling themselves. Top boxers aren't fighting as much because they make more money and don't have to.

Given how the amateurs are going id expect the next P4P king to come from Kazackhstan but there's plenty of other opportunities. Rigo and Loma have huge potential to dominate. Miley Garcia looks different class to most out there. People putting Floyd on this

Given how the amateurs are going id expect the next P4P king to come from Kazackhstan but there's plenty of other opportunities. Rigo and Loma have huge potential to dominate. Miley Garcia looks different class to most out there. People putting Floyd on this pedestal seems a bit ridiculous. There will be other all time greats after Floyd goes and no doubt well debate who was better

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Top 10? Top 15? Top 20?

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He isn't number one.

He is 100% number one or two based on defence, but it's hard to rank him number one of all time due to his attack, he does just enough sometimes.

Ali for instance in his youth was a nightmare with his movement and defence, plus he had the attack.

As for countering, Floyd is up there but I'd rank Willie Pep ahead of him because of his huge number of rounds and his decent knockout ratio of 27% in 241 fights.

Which is more knockouts than Floyd has fights. So you gotta imagine that doing that kind of boxing that amount of times makes you the best and it definitely does in this case.

I'd say he will fall somewhere in the top ten.

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LOL I actually Christian Bale's voice when I read your post, made the post way cooler LOL

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Vendetto has finally lost it and become a vigilante.

Top 20 - 30 :p

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Given how the amateurs are going id expect the next P4P king to come from Kazackhstan but there's plenty of other opportunities. Rigo and Loma have huge potential to dominate. Miley Garcia looks different class to most out there. People putting Floyd on this pedestal seems a bit ridiculous. There will be other all time greats after Floyd goes and no doubt well debate who was better

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Obviously there will emerge a boxer who is better than Floyd. But as of today it's hard to go past Floyd.

One thing i would like to point out about Mayweathers comp is what did the fighters he beat go on to do thats was great after he beat them. There are only a few on that list Castillo and Corrales and thats about it he caught alot of his big wins near end of there careers. The new breed wins well not sure the ghost proably won't do any thing Ortiz is shot and done so the Ginger kid is the only one left really to see if he is still going to be a winner. Leonard big wins execpt Hagler went on to do alot shit after there loss Benitez, Duran and Hearns went on to great wins after. Leonard i have ranked 10th and i don't see how Mayweather can pass Leonard because all the top guys he beat went on doing great because they were better fighters and were not just flash in the pan kinda guys.