... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.

He is of interest because he is a mystery!

A. Is he one of the best ever punchers? Without a chin or heart.

B. Is he the biggest hype job in memory? With an above average punch.

C. Is he the real deal, the one every boxing fan has been waiting for who follows the heavies? With all the heart and chin he will ever need.

And each question needs its own thread? No reason to ever step up if coasting makes him so interesting. All I see is different questions nobody has the answer to but people keep asking.

I can't argue with that? I'm just really interested!

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We might just prefer mysteries in this division because we're not satisfied with most of what we see already. Is there a Santa Claus and how do planes disappear are mysteries worth the time ;D , with heavies fans want statements and answers.

I'm not a big Wilder fan. If you want to waste the time, check out my posts about Wilder, most will be negative.
Wilder does keep winning! The fact that he wins all by KO, hasn't been beyond the 4th or 5th round and hasn't been tested in the ring is the source of all the interest and ridicule.
I'm not defending Wilder, I was trying to answer Ron's question.

I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

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I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

So he is the new Earnie Shavers.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

We might just prefer mysteries in this division because we're not satisfied with most of what we see already. Is there a Santa Claus and how do planes disappear are mysteries worth the time ;D , with heavies fans want statements and answers.

I'm not a big Wilder fan. If you want to waste the time, check out my posts about Wilder, most will be negative.
Wilder does keep winning! The fact that he wins all by KO, hasn't been beyond the 4th or 5th round and hasn't been tested in the ring is the source of all the interest and ridicule.
I'm not defending Wilder, I was trying to answer Ron's question.

Oh no, of course. I just think its another in a long line of promoters trying to microwave a guy to the top. I'm in the skeptical boat as we've all seen so many guys who have faced better run up to eventually fall flat. One guy makes observations and points out obvious holes and he's called a hater, another on the other spectrum goes all in and buys the power push, nest coming etc and he's called a fan boy or whatever. There has to be middle ground and you can only analyze or critique what is actually happened, not what might or we wish would.

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Originally Posted by Master

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I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

So he is the new Earnie Shavers.

Shavers wasn't 6'7. I'm hoping the height n reach will continue to serve Wilder well.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

So he is the new Earnie Shavers.

Shavers wasn't 6'7. I'm hoping the height n reach will continue to serve Wilder well.

We have not seen enough of Wilder to say he uses his height and reach with effect.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

So he is the new Earnie Shavers.

Shavers wasn't 6'7. I'm hoping the height n reach will continue to serve Wilder well.

We have not seen enough of Wilder to say he uses his height and reach with effect.

Shavers had above average reach... I'd say Wilder is a Hearns waiting to happen. Someone who gets in with a SRL, who takes him deep, absorbs his shots, and then beats him up late- a weakened kitten of a Wilder, late.

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Originally Posted by Master

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I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

So he is the new Earnie Shavers.

Shavers wasn't 6'7. I'm hoping the height n reach will continue to serve Wilder well.

We have not seen enough of Wilder to say he uses his height and reach with effect.

I think the height gives him great leverage on his one-two and left hook-right hand.

I also think at the least his size intimidates opponents when combined with his powe and intensity.

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Bit of a boring night but thinking of a previous date oriented thread, I ran across this vintage look at "power". Here's a beastly Wilder slipping and or being knocked off balance by a punch to the glove ;D while fighting a 400lb unemployed trucker being payed in chili dogs and Funyans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUlfI5VlZuY

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Bit of a boring night but thinking of a previous date oriented thread, I ran across this vintage look at "power". Here's a beastly Wilder slipping and or being knocked off balance by a punch to the glove ;D while fighting a 400lb unemployed trucker being payed in chili dogs and Funyans.

Deontay Wilder vs Dustin Nichols - YouTube

Two Ton Tony Galento did more than that to Joe Louis. lol

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Bit of a boring night but thinking of a previous date oriented thread, I ran across this vintage look at "power". Here's a beastly Wilder slipping and or being knocked off balance by a punch to the glove ;D while fighting a 400lb unemployed trucker being payed in chili dogs and Funyans.

Deontay Wilder vs Dustin Nichols - YouTube

Two Ton Tony Galento did more than that to Joe Louis. lol

Galento was actually world ranked is the difference.

Nichols is ranked 800 in the world;D

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Bit of a boring night but thinking of a previous date oriented thread, I ran across this vintage look at "power". Here's a beastly Wilder slipping and or being knocked off balance by a punch to the glove ;D while fighting a 400lb unemployed trucker being payed in chili dogs and Funyans.

Deontay Wilder vs Dustin Nichols - YouTube

Two Ton Tony Galento did more than that to Joe Louis. lol

Galento was actually world ranked is the difference.

Nichols is ranked 800 in the world;D

The difference is the fat guy never touched Wilder, he slipped, then beat the guy into submission.

The other difference is this was Wilder's 10th fight.

I would like to see Wilder succeed myself.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Bit of a boring night but thinking of a previous date oriented thread, I ran across this vintage look at "power". Here's a beastly Wilder slipping and or being knocked off balance by a punch to the glove ;D while fighting a 400lb unemployed trucker being payed in chili dogs and Funyans.

Deontay Wilder vs Dustin Nichols - YouTube

Two Ton Tony Galento did more than that to Joe Louis. lol

Galento was actually world ranked is the difference.

Nichols is ranked 800 in the world;D

The difference is the fat guy never touched Wilder, he slipped, then beat the guy into submission.

The other difference is this was Wilder's 10th fight.

I would like to see Wilder succeed myself.

These are the types of making sausage farces that his people should make sure get burned ;D. The circus bear just couldn't get off the stool again, not so much beat into submission.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Bit of a boring night but thinking of a previous date oriented thread, I ran across this vintage look at "power". Here's a beastly Wilder slipping and or being knocked off balance by a punch to the glove ;D while fighting a 400lb unemployed trucker being payed in chili dogs and Funyans.

Deontay Wilder vs Dustin Nichols - YouTube

Two Ton Tony Galento did more than that to Joe Louis. lol

Galento was actually world ranked is the difference.

Nichols is ranked 800 in the world;D

The difference is the fat guy never touched Wilder, he slipped, then beat the guy into submission.

The other difference is this was Wilder's 10th fight.

I would like to see Wilder succeed myself.

These are the types of making sausage farces that his people should make sure get burned ;D. The circus bear just couldn't get off the stool again, not so much beat into submission.

The point is he's fuckin FAT!