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Holyfield only beat cruiser weight punch bags, his record against next gen opponents with Wilders height and reach was a losing one. If he hit Lewis with his best punches and didn't even drop him, and Lewis was dropped by two men that were heavier than Holyfield but not as tall as Wilder, what does that make Joe Frazier?
And that's the problem lol The guy just don't know when to quit!.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
He definitely has heart :)
The Holyfield has heart saying has always drove me nuts. I think if he had heart he would have practiced what he preached or he would have sacked up and fought without roiding.
Heart, no. Hard as a coffin nail, yes.
Why are you robbing graves?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Cracks me up that people point out Holyfeild for roiding yet he never failed a test in a 26 year career. I am not saying he didn't but i am pretty sure if a guy never got caught all that time everyone he was fighting was most likely on something as well and if don't think so you then never been in a competitive environment. But yea Holyfeild in his 50's now so who knows i think he can never seen him knocked out clean never been iced before shit hate to say it they might pay him to fight him his old and shot perfect.
Yep your dead right there, Wilder is also on steroids no doubt as are nearly all professional fighters of the modern era, drugs are just a fact of top level sport these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Hell even in the Olympics the athletes try to cheat!
Holyfield was probably a pioneer of it that's all. We can credit Holyfield as the first to shun the old school methods and adopt the new and also one of the first to crank the juice but certainly not the last.
As for him being put away, not quite true, Riddick Bowe knocked his eyes rolling into the back of his head. Definitely an iron chin though, never seen him sparked cold!!!
Wilder would definitely do it now though in Holy's 50's but I doubt he would be able to spark a prime Holyfield!! If Lennox could not, I can't see Wilder catching him with anything big enough to do the job and he certainly couldn't wear Holy down for it lol.