Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
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IamInuit
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FinitoElDinamita
Lol. Oh gawwwwd.
The question is
who could not who would and for some of you that started watching the sport in the 1990's that's probably a hard concept to grasp and frankly I dont give a shit. Some of you are infatuated with crucifying previous eras and fighters on a daily basis. Gets tiresome. Sam Langford is in the minds of many historians the greatest light-heavyweight that ever lived and yet seemingly dismissed out of hand by some. As much as many of these fellas may not have seen a Roy Jones, it is also true that Roy Jones never saw anyone like them.
I hear you but you know what, don't put me in the 90s bracket because I got into boxing before that.
I got into Boxing in the late 80s when I was around 8 years old. When other kids my age were into Teenaged mutant ninja turtles and GI Joe, I was into the sweet science.
I was already deep into the game by the 90s and that's when I went back and studied all the fighters from the golden era. I did my history lesson long time ago my friend and I stand by my belief about these old school fighters.
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Lol. Oh gawwwwd.
The question is
who could not who would and for some of you that started watching the sport in the 1990's that's probably a hard concept to grasp and frankly I dont give a shit. Some of you are infatuated with crucifying previous eras and fighters on a daily basis. Gets tiresome. Sam Langford is in the minds of many historians the greatest light-heavyweight that ever lived and yet seemingly dismissed out of hand by some. As much as many of these fellas may not have seen a Roy Jones, it is also true that Roy Jones never saw anyone like them.
I hear you but you know what, don't put me in the 90s bracket because I got into boxing before that.
I got into Boxing in the late 80s when I was around 8 years old. When other kids my age were into Teenaged mutant ninja turtles and GI Joe, I was into the sweet science.
I was already deep into the game by the 90s and that's when I went back and studied all the fighters from the golden era. I did my history lesson long time ago my friend and I stand by my belief about these old school fighters.
I think if we exchange boxing with porn, your monologue would sound almost like naked bare truth about yourself:).
"I hear you but you know what, don't put me in the 90s bracket because I got into porn before that.
I got into Porn in the late 80s when I was around 8 years old. When other kids my age were into Teenaged mutant ninja turtles and GI Joe, I was into the porn.
I was already deep into the Porn by the 90s and that's when I went back and studied all the porn stars from the golden era. I did my history lesson long time ago my friend and I stand by my belief about these old school porn stars."
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Ok finto how familiar are you with the Jinx then because if you watch that man at light heavy he was a fucking monster and cleared out his division. Jones was neck and neck with Griffin before the dq happened sure the rematch was a blow out but Roy was not unstoppable. Also I lose a lot respect for a man who did not fight the Lienel champ and just beat the left overs. Also yea Dm lost to a guy Jones beat but he was like 35 by then and look how Jones did at that age maybe a year older fucking getting shit packed by Taver and Johnson does that make them better. Spinks had a weird style, monster power, a lot more reach and he had a chin of steel was never put on the mat at Lhw also never lost. Not to mention he fought the main guy for the belt and cleared out everyone before going up and beating the main man again at heavyweight not for just some fucking belt. I don't think Jones had enough to keep Spinks away and i believe if Spinks lands its pretty much over because the man hit like a train at the weight i just don't see if going well for Jones when fighting Spinks more so then anyone who ever fought at the weight.
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Maybe at 160, because that was the first 3 years of Jones' career so the inexperience factor of 160 Jones would definitely come into play if you were stacking him up against true career middleweights.
But at 168 to 175? Not a chance. Unfortunately people seem to judge Roy on the past 10 years while he was washed up and fighting to get out of tax debt. They see that he's been knocked out a bunch of times, some by relatively weak punchers like Glen Johnson, and come to the conclusion that, "hey, if Glen Johnson could knock him out, a KO artist like Archie Moore or Bob Foster would have killed him!"
People unfortunately forget how freakishly good Jones was in his prime. This was a guy with maybe the greatest reflexes in boxing history, a guy who was incredibly fast of hand and feet, and had legit one-punch KO power in each hand. That's another thing people forget. Roy wasn't a guy to take risks and try to chase a KO, but if he saw and opening or had a guy hurt he could close the show with deadly precision.
Anyone from 168-175 in the history of boxing gets eaten alive by Jones. He was truly one of a kind.
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Guys with the best chances (not surefire winners, but guys who would give him a run)....
Tommy Hearns
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
Dwight Qawi
Gerald McClellan
Julian Jackson
Really super short list and I'm sure I left out some people but RJJ in his prime was amazing. Defensively akin to a young Muhammad Ali, didn't even really have to block shots, he just avoided getting hit but he had insane combination handspeed but also with 1 punch KO power.
RJJ is one of the few guys who could score a flash knockdown with handspeed alone but also just turn the lights out on you with his power...dangerous boxer in his prime
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
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Ron Swanson
Nobody is forgetting a thing. The question is could. There's a reason for the expression "anything can happen in boxing". We're just looking at who had better chances than others. Roy is the most gifted boxer I've ever seen, doesn't mean he couldn't be beat.
Oh well fuck if you're talking about who COULD, than that's a long list. Pretty much any 168-175 boxer in history who reached an elite level COULD have beat him, because the old "puncher's chance" idiom gives any of them a chance.
Hell, I COULD have beaten Roy Jones if he walked into one of my punches before he obliterated me.
Who gives a shit who could have done anything, or who might have had the best chance?
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Jones lost a lot after coming back but during his prime at 175 anyhow who was it that he beat that was so amazing really. Still going with Spinks by destruction because he was very dominant against better guys and most people rember Tyson fight but beside that Spinks never lost and was never put down.
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Guess my name automatically discredits my obvious answer....
Could or would beat Prime Jones? No in history from 160-175...
Only guy that has routinely been pitted in hypothetical match up against natural light heavies and heavies. When he started at 154. That's nuts, almost a subconscious admission that he'd smash anyone under 175.
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
Wanted to bring up this topic again and still say that Spinks would knock out Jones. The more i look into his fights the more i think Spinks is the greatest lhw of all time. His time in the lhw division was considered on of the best of all time and he crushed everyone and was never beat at the weight.
Re: Who could beat Roy Jones?
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mikeeod
Every truly great fighter came back after a loss, however, and proved their greatness. Roy never did. First good shot he took ruined him.
He lost to Montell Griffith and then went on a long run of being untouchable in fact the only reason he went on to become a guy prone to getting knocked out was because he dropped from 195 or so back down to 175....had RJJ just stayed at cruiserweight instead of going back down to lightheavy he would have been just fine
