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Well at that time I'd walk out too on the rip off offer! You can't blame ANYBODY for walking out on that prick! And not taking the test requires no explanation, he was on steroids LOL!
I am sure there is more to it even than that man. Pac'd fight him for a dollar now.
The point is the whole drug thing was an excuse for Floyd to back out obviously, what was he worried about? If Floyd was confident he would beat him then he wouldn't have cared what kind of drugs Pac was on.
Steroids help your training and your weight but they can't change your style. Pac had, maybe still has after last night, the style to crush that defence.
See the Flomo community has never been able to successfully formulate an answer to the question..
"If Pac is so easy for Floyd then why wont he fight him when most all agree he is the one he should fight? And the most lucrative?"
It's because they shy away from the only answer. He's a gutless coward who likes to cherry pick his opponents. Maidana was a cherry pick that backfired!
He's a quacker mate, make no mistake about it. Who says "You choose my opponent" to the public and then only offers 2 choices, none of which are Pac, and fails to respond to about 20,000 messages of abuse and cries for a Pac fight? Only a shame dog, that's who!
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Any of your opinions ? To be honest any amount of logic, a spade full, a heap full, a mountains worth is not going to disprove your opinions because just like your OPINION that Mayweather is the greatest of all time, that is all they are, opinions. The kind of greatness you describe as unheard of is not that at all unless you dismiss those who have already been described in such terms. Which is exactly what you do. FMJ is a great boxer not agreeing that he is the Greatest ever is not the same thing as dismissing him or being a "hater". I guess it sucks to have someone call you out on your bullshit.
No, you're purposely misquoting me. I have no issue if people don't think Floyd is the greatest of all time. There were a ton of great fighters over the last 100 years, there's no shame in people thinking, let's say, SRR was the best ever. I don't call people idiots for haters for not buying Mayweather as TBE. I've NEVER done that.
I've never said that no other fighter reached a comparable level of greatness. Again, you're setting up straw man arguments. What I said was that Floyd's run, which includes 18 years of undefeated pro-boxing and 16 of those years fighting on a championship level, is unprecedented. And it is. Nobody has fought consistently world class opposition for so long and not only haven't lost, but have had very few competitive fights.
If you don't think Mayweather is an ATG after what he's accomplished, you're an idiot. Plain and simple. If you don't think Mayweather is a top 10 ATG, you're opinion on anything boxing related is absolutely worthless.
And this theory that "an opinion is just an opinion, all are equal in the eyes of god, an opinion can't be wrong" is complete nonsense. Opinions can be completely worthless if they are baseless or coming from a place of ignorance.
If you say "well in my opinion Floyd ducked prime Oscar, Mosley, and Cotto because he never fought them in their primes" and I respond by giving you DOCUMENTED written/video proof that Floyd called these guys out in their "primes" and these guys were the ones who turned it down, guess what? Your opinion is shit. It's been blown out of the water by FACT.
We all have the right to be ignorant and form opinions based on emotion instead of fact. I'm not trying to take that right away from anyone. It's just not a right I choose to exercise.
There is only one person getting emotional here. Who said anything about ducking? You can dress an opinion up as fact if it makes you feel better but it is still only an opinion.
" If you don't think Mayweather is an ATG after what he's accomplished, you're an idiot. Plain and simple. If you don't think Mayweather is a top 10 ATG, you're opinion on anything boxing related is absolutely worthless. "
What you are basically saying is that if you do not agree with me you are a worthless idiot. You did the same thing with the Zimmerman case. To you it seemingly matters not what other people think or how qualified they are to comment on things, how relevant their experience or what motivates them to form and express an opinion they have, All that matters is that your opinions are supposedly based on flawless logic formulated by an esteemed and untouchable special kind of genius that renders all other arguments as worthless. People that utterly and completely 100% sure on any given subject are nearly always mistaken. That of course is just my opinion.
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There is only one person getting emotional here. Who said anything about ducking? You can dress an opinion up as fact if it makes you feel better but it is still only an opinion.
" If you don't think Mayweather is an ATG after what he's accomplished, you're an idiot. Plain and simple. If you don't think Mayweather is a top 10 ATG, you're opinion on anything boxing related is absolutely worthless. "
What you are basically saying is that if you do not agree with me you are a worthless idiot. You did the same thing with the Zimmerman case. To you it seemingly matters not what other people think or how qualified they are to comment on things, how relevant their experience or what motivates them to form and express an opinion they have, All that matters is that your opinions are supposedly based on flawless logic formulated by an esteemed and untouchable special kind of genius that renders all other arguments as worthless. People that utterly and completely 100% sure on any given subject are nearly always mistaken. That of course is just my opinion.
No, what I'm saying is if you form an opinion based of fallacies and ignore all contradicting evidence, you're an idiot. Has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with me. I see posts every day that I don't agree with, but I don't think are idiotic.
I'm not infallible and I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong on something, but that comes from someone posting something of substance to contradict me. All you're doing is misquoting me, setting up straw man arguments and accusing me of being "emotional", like that's supposed to legitimize your opinion. It's nonsense. You have nothing to offer intellectually to this conversation. Just accuse me of being a bully and back out.
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There is only one person getting emotional here. Who said anything about ducking? You can dress an opinion up as fact if it makes you feel better but it is still only an opinion.
" If you don't think Mayweather is an ATG after what he's accomplished, you're an idiot. Plain and simple. If you don't think Mayweather is a top 10 ATG, you're opinion on anything boxing related is absolutely worthless. "
What you are basically saying is that if you do not agree with me you are a worthless idiot. You did the same thing with the Zimmerman case. To you it seemingly matters not what other people think or how qualified they are to comment on things, how relevant their experience or what motivates them to form and express an opinion they have, All that matters is that your opinions are supposedly based on flawless logic formulated by an esteemed and untouchable special kind of genius that renders all other arguments as worthless. People that utterly and completely 100% sure on any given subject are nearly always mistaken. That of course is just my opinion.
No, what I'm saying is if you form an opinion based of fallacies and ignore all contradicting evidence, you're an idiot. Has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with me. I see posts every day that I don't agree with, but I don't think are idiotic.
I'm not infallible and I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong on something, but that comes from someone posting something of substance to contradict me. All you're doing is misquoting me, setting up straw man arguments and accusing me of being "emotional", like that's supposed to legitimize your opinion. It's nonsense. You have nothing to offer intellectually to this conversation. Just accuse me of being a bully and back out.
I agree if you form the opinion based on fallacies and ignore all contradictory evidence then you are indeed making yourself seem like quite the idiot. The idea that people involved with boxing on a day to day basis for most of their working life must be wrong because you have decided that any body not putting Mayweather in the top ten of all time greats is stupid and has nothing to offer, is both supremely arrogant and dumb on your part. Much like the red herring that is your straw man argument, you are yourself ignoring the actual issue and just deflecting any real attempt at discussion by questioning the intellectual legitimacy of my reply. You must entertain the possibility that there are posters on this forum that actually do not rate Mayweather as being worthy of making their all time top ten who actually do have a valid opinion and could well be more knowledgeable and experienced than yourself. I apologise if you think I have misquoted you even once but I am pretty sure I am not mistaken that you yourself said
"If you don't think Mayweather is a top 10 ATG, you're opinion on anything boxing related is absolutely worthless."
If that is your opinion then fair enough, but don't mistake it for a fact.
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1. Ron Swanson
2. Cyclone
3. Beanflicker
4. bzfkn (sic)
Did I miss anyone?!!?
Hey, Ron, how the hell do you get on that list, I could use the money. LOL
Ask cyclone, he would know more.
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Cool story bro and mostly true except one thorn.. Pac.
You can't deny he ducked him right? :cool:
Why does Mayweather shoulder the blame? How can you accuse a guy of ducking someone when the guy OFFERED to fight the guy?
Floyd offered him 40 million to fight him, Pac didn't like the money and didn't bother to make a counter offer, he just fucked off. This is a documented fact from people who were a part of the negotiations.
Then Floyd caved on the money and it was 50/50, and then Manny didn't want to take a drug test.
And another fact that is conveniently forgotten: Manny's camp sent Mayweather's camp two emails regarding the drug testing. One asked "what is the penalty if Pacquiao tests positive" and the other asked "if Pacquaio tests positive, can the result be kept secret in the interest of the fight and boxing in general". Again, these were documented and sourced by people who were involved in the camps and actually saw them.
It's just more biased, anti-Floyd idiocy. I'm willing to bet that at least 80% of the people on this forum believed he also ducked prime Mosley, prime De La Hoya, prime Cotto, ect ect. It's just complete ignorance.
This isn't my "opinion", this is fact.
I see this come up again and again. Have these emails ever been presented? I am not talking about what people say they saw but has anyone actually seen these emails? I have been away for a while so I may have missed these.
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Yea there was emails and yea Pac was on the juice and they were asking if he was caught could it be a secret so it would not effect them. Max if pac won't go off the juice for 50 million dollars he he a coward. I am Holyfeild fan and i am pretty sure if he was going make 50 mill he take the fucking test for it.
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Yea there was emails and yea Pac was on the juice and they were asking if he was caught could it be a secret so it would not effect them. Max if pac won't go off the juice for 50 million dollars he he a coward. I am Holyfeild fan and i am pretty sure if he was going make 50 mill he take the fucking test for it.
Then you probably have some links as to those emails. Post them in here so that there is concrete proof of the cheating and not some hearsay.
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Yea there was emails and yea Pac was on the juice and they were asking if he was caught could it be a secret so it would not effect them. Max if pac won't go off the juice for 50 million dollars he he a coward. I am Holyfeild fan and i am pretty sure if he was going make 50 mill he take the fucking test for it.
Then you probably have some links as to those emails. Post them in here so that there is concrete proof of the cheating and not some hearsay.
He's got nothing for this one, just a hunch but I'm certain it's an over elaborated string of mind bendeing stuff to overlook the simplest line of events.
Top Rank: Fight Manny Floyd... Floyd: No.
Freddie Roach: Get yur ass in the ring Floyd, you don't run boxing: Floyd: No.
MAnny Pacquiao: We have to fight Floyd. Floyd: No.
20,000 members of the public: Fight Pac ya douche bag!. Floyd: No.
Some members of TMT: Maybe you should just fight Pac Floyd. Floyd: No.
You like to say that Manny walked out without a counter offer, well in spite of all of the calls for this fight, Floyd never once even acknowledges that Pac even exists!
Manny Pacquiao NEEDS juice, how could he be a welterweight otherwise!?
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You fellas reminded me of this song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ftbKZxHpw
:lickish:
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Even after being exposed, they still can't come to grips with their bias... they just have to sell the Money Team. How sad, so, sooooo sad!
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Interesting. I just looked and there are 17 Mayweather threads on the 1st page. Not one is started by a fan of Mayweather. On a string.
Paid bloggers don't start threads... they diffuse other people's threads and interject their thoughts. Nice try!
