Quotes from Stevie Collins/Freddie Roach on Roy Jones Jr

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Slipx

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by WWatt

Go f*** yourself, or I'll make you my bitch.

---

damn that was soooo original...you made that up yourself didn't you?

I'll say it one more time, then I have to go work on plyometrics...
BOXING IS NOT ABOUT IF A KO'S B, AND C UD'S B, A IS BETTER THAN C. ITS A f***ING SITUATION OF ROCK PAPER SCISSORS AND A VARIABLE OF HOW HARD A GUY TRAINED, THROWN IN.

take your annoying novice bulls*** elsewhere..

---

LMFAO, he still thinks I was being serious! Lol!

And I don't believe any boxers should use plyo's unless they are advanced, so I assume that you are an experienced amateur or top pro. Otherwise your just fooling yourself, when you should be working on boxing (if you want to be a boxer).

I love it...because I love Roy Jones jr...and everytime someone mentions who would have beat him based off hypothectical non-sense is hilarious to me...and this guy collins are you serious!!!!This gangly, goofy, flat-footed guy, would have gotten his ass tore up by Roy at 168 or below....this can't be serious...it's funny but here's a hypothectical....had Roy retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight crown he'd be declared the best ever hands down, but now everyone trying to apply all this should've could've would've bullshiit now that he's lost..and basically by his own admission after the Ruiz fight said that he had accomplished everything he wanted in boxing and was only out to get a big check after that so mentally he wasn't the same fighter....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

I love it...because I love Roy Jones jr...and everytime someone mentions who would have beat him based off hypothectical non-sense is hilarious to me...and this guy collins are you serious!!!!This gangly, goofy, flat-footed guy, would have gotten his ass tore up by Roy at 168 or below....this can't be serious...it's funny but here's a hypothectical....had Roy retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight crown he'd be declared the best ever hands down, but now everyone trying to apply all this should've could've would've bullshiit now that he's lost..and basically by his own admission after the Ruiz fight said that he had accomplished everything he wanted in boxing and was only out to get a big check after that so mentally he wasn't the same fighter....

---

Collins would have stood little chance against Jones, the guy was a joke.

As for Jones, my money would of been Benn, Eubank or McClellan had they fought Jones. I said that 12 years ago.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by WWatt

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

I love it...because I love Roy Jones jr...and everytime someone mentions who would have beat him based off hypothectical non-sense is hilarious to me...and this guy collins are you serious!!!!This gangly, goofy, flat-footed guy, would have gotten his ass tore up by Roy at 168 or below....this can't be serious...it's funny but here's a hypothectical....had Roy retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight crown he'd be declared the best ever hands down, but now everyone trying to apply all this should've could've would've bullshiit now that he's lost..and basically by his own admission after the Ruiz fight said that he had accomplished everything he wanted in boxing and was only out to get a big check after that so mentally he wasn't the same fighter....

---

Collins would have stood little chance against Jones, the guy was a joke.

As for Jones, my money would of been Benn, Eubank or McClellan had they fought Jones. I said that 12 years ago.

---

Collins may have stood little chance against Jones, but to call him a joke makes u look stupid!
that joke beat Eubank and Benn twice each! say what u want about them been past it but he still beat them, and whoever else would fight him, at least he had the balls to call out the best in RJJ, yeah he probably wouldn't have won but this is boxing and anything can happen. He was one of the toughest fighters around and certainly no joke

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by FightingPhil

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by WWatt

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

I love it...because I love Roy Jones jr...and everytime someone mentions who would have beat him based off hypothectical non-sense is hilarious to me...and this guy collins are you serious!!!!This gangly, goofy, flat-footed guy, would have gotten his ass tore up by Roy at 168 or below....this can't be serious...it's funny but here's a hypothectical....had Roy retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight crown he'd be declared the best ever hands down, but now everyone trying to apply all this should've could've would've bullshiit now that he's lost..and basically by his own admission after the Ruiz fight said that he had accomplished everything he wanted in boxing and was only out to get a big check after that so mentally he wasn't the same fighter....

---

Collins would have stood little chance against Jones, the guy was a joke.

As for Jones, my money would of been Benn, Eubank or McClellan had they fought Jones. I said that 12 years ago.

---

Collins may have stood little chance against Jones, but to call him a joke makes u look stupid!
that joke beat Eubank and Benn twice each! say what u want about them been past it but he still beat them, and whoever else would fight him, at least he had the balls to call out the best in RJJ, yeah he probably wouldn't have won but this is boxing and anything can happen. He was one of the toughest fighters around and certainly no joke

---

Collins records: 39 fights, 36 wins (21 KOs). He was WBO middleweight and supermiddleweight champ (defending 6 times and retiring as a champ). Seems like the guy was not a joke at all.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by WWatt

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

I love it...because I love Roy Jones jr...and everytime someone mentions who would have beat him based off hypothectical non-sense is hilarious to me...and this guy collins are you serious!!!!This gangly, goofy, flat-footed guy, would have gotten his a** tore up by Roy at 168 or below....this can't be serious...it's funny but here's a hypothectical....had Roy retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight crown he'd be declared the best ever hands down, but now everyone trying to apply all this should've could've would've bullshiit now that he's lost..and basically by his own admission after the Ruiz fight said that he had accomplished everything he wanted in boxing and was only out to get a big check after that so mentally he wasn't the same fighter....

---

Collins would have stood little chance against Jones, the guy was a joke.

As for Jones, my money would of been Benn, Eubank or McClellan had they fought Jones. I said that 12 years ago.

---

you know fook all about Collins if you think he was a joke

The guy couldn't punch himself out of a paper bag ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

I love it...because I love Roy Jones jr...and everytime someone mentions who would have beat him based off hypothectical non-sense is hilarious to me...and this guy collins are you serious!!!!This gangly, goofy, flat-footed guy, would have gotten his a** tore up by Roy at 168 or below....this can't be serious...it's funny but here's a hypothectical....had Roy retired after beating Ruiz for the heavyweight crown he'd be declared the best ever hands down, but now everyone trying to apply all this should've could've would've bullshiit now that he's lost..and basically by his own admission after the Ruiz fight said that he had accomplished everything he wanted in boxing and was only out to get a big check after that so mentally he wasn't the same fighter....

---

Collins was looking to get a big payday...hoping he could "sucker" a great fighter into fighting him....Kinda like Tarver....but RJJ wasn't taking the bait......he was looking for challenging fighters and bigger paydays....when Collins beat benn he was already a spent fighter after all the wars.....Benn lost to a then 41 year old Thulani Maglinga before the Collins fight....he was done....Collins pounced and beat an already fallen legend.....as for eubank...eubank lost 5 of his last 9 fights....he was at the end as well....Collins benifited from father time......not from being a better fighter....