Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
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It was a close fight and the score cards should have reflected it. Perez looked better than Jennings in spots, and I agreed with the announcers, he looked like a different fighter in the second half of the fight than he was in the first half of the fight. Jennings also looked good in spots last night too. How about Povetkin - Jennings?
Rat, IMO Povetkin would rip Jennings a new a-hole. Jennings is a gangly, spidery type of guy with not much power. He was not exactly breathing easy at the end last night. He has great reach and knows how to use it close in and that's unusual, but aside from The Rebel, I don't think he has ever been tested. Not impressed at all. Stiverne would KO him. Not as convinced about Wilder because he never has been tested and if Jennings takes him into the late rounds, I think its bye bye for Wilder. IF.
I just don't know how the smaller Jennings with the shorter reach would box the 6'7 Wilder from the outside without eating that huge right hand early.
Yea cant see Jennings lasting with Wilder. Looked very average last night to me against a good fighter but a lazy fighter who looked very tired in the 2nd half of the fight. Id say Wilder would get Jennings out of there in the 1st half of the fight. Stiverne would be a more interesting fight but I think Stiverne would stop him late.
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
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It was a close fight and the score cards should have reflected it. Perez looked better than Jennings in spots, and I agreed with the announcers, he looked like a different fighter in the second half of the fight than he was in the first half of the fight. Jennings also looked good in spots last night too. How about Povetkin - Jennings?
Rat, IMO Povetkin would rip Jennings a new a-hole. Jennings is a gangly, spidery type of guy with not much power. He was not exactly breathing easy at the end last night. He has great reach and knows how to use it close in and that's unusual, but aside from The Rebel, I don't think he has ever been tested. Not impressed at all. Stiverne would KO him. Not as convinced about Wilder because he never has been tested and if Jennings takes him into the late rounds, I think its bye bye for Wilder. IF.
I just don't know how the smaller Jennings with the shorter reach would box the 6'7 Wilder from the outside without eating that huge right hand early.
Who said he'd box? Wilder hasn't shown at all he can maintain reach off the jab he has shown, nor the balance and has yet to be significantly countered with even a so so punch??? We're talking about a guy who has. not. gone. beyond 4 rounds..ever! Wilder is banking everything he has on bombing guys out in first couple rounds and I think he has cocooned himself into a false confidence that is going to blow up in his face. Jennings has shown more and faced better in his last 3 fights than Wilder has in his entire career and its boggling to see him so easily dismissed.
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
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It was a close fight and the score cards should have reflected it. Perez looked better than Jennings in spots, and I agreed with the announcers, he looked like a different fighter in the second half of the fight than he was in the first half of the fight. Jennings also looked good in spots last night too. How about Povetkin - Jennings?
Rat, IMO Povetkin would rip Jennings a new a-hole. Jennings is a gangly, spidery type of guy with not much power. He was not exactly breathing easy at the end last night. He has great reach and knows how to use it close in and that's unusual, but aside from The Rebel, I don't think he has ever been tested. Not impressed at all. Stiverne would KO him. Not as convinced about Wilder because he never has been tested and if Jennings takes him into the late rounds, I think its bye bye for Wilder. IF.
I just don't know how the smaller Jennings with the shorter reach would box the 6'7 Wilder from the outside without eating that huge right hand early.
Who said he'd box? Wilder hasn't shown at all he can maintain reach off the jab he has shown, nor the balance and has yet to be significantly countered with even a so so punch??? We're talking about a guy who has. not. gone. beyond 4 rounds..ever! Wilder is banking everything he has on bombing guys out in first couple rounds and I think he has cocooned himself into a false confidence that is going to blow up in his face. Jennings has shown more and faced better in his last 3 fights than Wilder has in his entire career and its boggling to see him so easily dismissed.
One punch KO power trumps all when your opponent is hittable.
Jennings is and lacks major firepower of his own.
He may be a better overall fighter than Wilder.
Randall Bailey and Julian Jackson knocked out plenty of guys who were better overall boxers than they were.
Well Jackson was Jackson, a cut above all mentioned. I rank his one & done power as some of the best the sport has seen and Wilders by almost design and fully expected.
I can't see Jennings taking a few shots and proving he can come back to win on a higher level as a negative while also giving a pass to Wilder who has not proven anything of the sort, not faced counters and only blitzed those he was fully expected to. Jennings can put his shots together and power can be overstated and intoxicating. You and I can list phone books on previous undefeated who came in on hyped power #'s and crumbled when guys boxed better and punched back. Morrison, Briggs, Stewart, Tshabalalawhatever his name was. Some power is really only as proven and as good as those you ko with it. I think anyway.
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
Jennings confirmed himself a solid lower half contender in this fight :) and the best thing is he will improve and learn from this outing ;)
I had Jennings ahead by 2 at the end so the point deduction didn't affect my card, but it was close. Perez has no one to blame but himself, he intentionally headbutted and threw a punch on the break :-\ dude is a lazy fighter ;)
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
I think it was a cheap shot and questionable given the timing and circumstances. Kind of greasy imo.
Having said that Perez is lucky on the one hand that he never lost a point for all of those Hockey shoulders/door openers he threw and was warned about.
Its the timing of the call that does not sit well with me.
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
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I think it was a cheap shot and questionable given the timing and circumstances. Kind of greasy imo.
Having said that Perez is lucky on the one hand that he never lost a point for all of those Hockey shoulders/door openers he threw and was warned about.
Its the timing of the call that does not sit well with me.
It looked to me that the ref was breaking them because of the use of the head, then when the punch followed I think the ref had had enough of the rough housing :)
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
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I think it was a cheap shot and questionable given the timing and circumstances. Kind of greasy imo.
Having said that Perez is lucky on the one hand that he never lost a point for all of those Hockey shoulders/door openers he threw and was warned about.
Its the timing of the call that does not sit well with me.
It looked to me that the ref was breaking them because of the use of the head, then when the punch followed I think the ref had had enough of the rough housing :)
Yeah punch was on its way imo at the exact same time. Maybe I can find a slow gif and he was going forward but Jennings was on the ropes which stopped his momentum but not Mikes. Mike underachieved again just like @Fenster said he would and appears to have a fuel issue and should have never found himself in a position of a point making the difference. I just think it stinks a little because that point gave him an L rather then a draw.
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
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I think it was a cheap shot and questionable given the timing and circumstances. Kind of greasy imo.
Having said that Perez is lucky on the one hand that he never lost a point for all of those Hockey shoulders/door openers he threw and was warned about.
Its the timing of the call that does not sit well with me.
I think the ref finally said that's it! What can you say? It's a judgement call by the ref, and the ref was closer to the action than we were.
Nah I dont see it that way as stated above but its all good.
Re: Harvey Dock screws Mike Perez
Mike sucked the other night. He was a lazy bstard in the ring and didn't deserve a decision. The fact the the took a point means nothing to the overall fight. Mike lost. His trainer should have told him that ever punch landed would get him a cheeseburger. Might have got some motivation out of his lazy ass then.
