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Odd for me as well mate, all theses meds I'm taking I must be going:coocoo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Odd for you to praise Froch TamQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddonchavez wouldnt even win a round vs frochQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeLucky for him Froch is an even worse boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I love watching Chavez fight as his father always looks so disgusted at him.
Have you seen froch fight? I'm not a froch fan and I think that he is overrated by some people but he has beaten some solid fighters. He isn't a great boxer but he has been able to box well against come forward fighters like Abraham and Johnson. Chavez has never showed that against anyone. He has only come forward. If Chavez had to fight froch's competition from the past few years, Chavez would be completely irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeLucky for him Froch is an even worse boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
That's not entirely true, Junior can box a bit. See his fights with Vera when Vera was the guy coming forward and Junior was boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHave you seen froch fight? I'm not a froch fan and I think that he is overrated by some people but he has beaten some solid fighters. He isn't a great boxer but he has been able to box well against come forward fighters like Abraham and Johnson. Chavez has never showed that against anyone. He has only come forward. If Chavez had to fight froch's competition from the past few years, Chavez would be completely irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeLucky for him Froch is an even worse boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Ive never seen Froch fight. My comments on his boxing ability are just taken out of thin air.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat's not entirely true, Junior can box a bit. See his fights with Vera when Vera was the guy coming forward and Junior was boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHave you seen froch fight? I'm not a froch fan and I think that he is overrated by some people but he has beaten some solid fighters. He isn't a great boxer but he has been able to box well against come forward fighters like Abraham and Johnson. Chavez has never showed that against anyone. He has only come forward. If Chavez had to fight froch's competition from the past few years, Chavez would be completely irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeLucky for him Froch is an even worse boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Vera isn't a bum. He's defeated 3 world champions: Dzindrick, Mora and Chavez Jr. He's also stopped Andy Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
That's a disgrace to consider any of those 3 world champions. He has also lost to no name fighters. Vera is a C level fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkVera isn't a bum. He's defeated 3 world champions: Dzindrick, Mora and Chavez Jr. He's also stopped Andy Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Vera is a bum. Hes a middleweight who is at least a top 20 middleweight. This is the problem with boxing. To not be a bum you have to be undefeated and marketable. Thats the great thing about UFC, lose a few fights and fans will still watch you. The majority of boxing fans are such pretenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherThat's a disgrace to consider any of those 3 world champions. He has also lost to no name fighters. Vera is a C level fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkVera isn't a bum. He's defeated 3 world champions: Dzindrick, Mora and Chavez Jr. He's also stopped Andy Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
not true. being top 20 in any weight class isnt very good at all. also, as you said, he was a middlweight. he was way smaller than chavez. froch wont be and is way better than vera.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeVera is a bum. Hes a middleweight who is at least a top 20 middleweight. This is the problem with boxing. To not be a bum you have to be undefeated and marketable. Thats the great thing about UFC, lose a few fights and fans will still watch you. The majority of boxing fans are such pretenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherThat's a disgrace to consider any of those 3 world champions. He has also lost to no name fighters. Vera is a C level fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkVera isn't a bum. He's defeated 3 world champions: Dzindrick, Mora and Chavez Jr. He's also stopped Andy Lee.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I want to see this fight for one reason, this will tell me how Martinez might have done against Froch.
That fight is pretty much dead now, unless Chavez pulled off the upset. Nope! Even then we won't see that fight.