Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Garcia beats any type of matthyse.
Garcia is never expected to win anything but he has shown that his basic style is winning and beating the best out there.
GGG is another one that will get his tan whipped by oldie froch or ward if he ever decides to step up to 168.
You're living two years ago. Currently, that statement is entirely incorrect. Garcia was expected to win his last two fights and the odds for the fights were heavily in Garcia's favor. Yet, in every way but on paper, he lost the fight against Herrera, and in his farcical fight against Salka, beat up a top 50 junior lightweight. Want to know why people don't like Garcia, well, there you go.
If Garcia steps up to 147, he gets beat down by Thurman, Porter and Brook.
You don't like Garcia because he fought a good fighter like herrera? The salka fight was a joke but the herrera fight was a legit fight. Garcia has fought legit fighters for the past few years.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
If it weren't for the eye I think Lucas would have beat Garcia but taking advantage of injuries is a big part of boxing so my statement is moot regardless.
I still think there is a lot of excitement around Lucas but it is lost in the niche sport of boxing.He might as well fight Broner next so the hype about Broner can follow Lucas.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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powerpuncher
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
imp
Garcia beats any type of matthyse.
Garcia is never expected to win anything but he has shown that his basic style is winning and beating the best out there.
GGG is another one that will get his tan whipped by oldie froch or ward if he ever decides to step up to 168.
You're living two years ago. Currently, that statement is entirely incorrect. Garcia was expected to win his last two fights and the odds for the fights were heavily in Garcia's favor. Yet, in every way but on paper, he lost the fight against Herrera, and in his farcical fight against Salka, beat up a top 50 junior lightweight. Want to know why people don't like Garcia, well, there you go.
If Garcia steps up to 147, he gets beat down by Thurman, Porter and Brook.
You don't like Garcia because he fought a good fighter like herrera? The salka fight was a joke but the herrera fight was a legit fight. Garcia has fought legit fighters for the past few years.
The Herrera fight was supposed to be a non-controversial relatively easy win for the lineal junior welterweight champion, Garcia, in front of his fans in Puerto Rico, considering he was coming off the best win of his career. Instead, it left a bitter taste with many fans because it appeared Herrera beat him but was robbed. I had Garcia losing. He then refused a rematch with Herrera and fought a 40-1 or something underdog in Salka, a junior-lightweight. Whatever good will he built up with people, he's done a good job recently squandering it. He also acts with a real sense of entitlement, like he controls the division. He won't face Peterson until Matthysse gives him a rematch. He won't face Herrera again, but he faced Morales twice. On and On.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
powerpuncher
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
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Originally Posted by
imp
Garcia beats any type of matthyse.
Garcia is never expected to win anything but he has shown that his basic style is winning and beating the best out there.
GGG is another one that will get his tan whipped by oldie froch or ward if he ever decides to step up to 168.
You're living two years ago. Currently, that statement is entirely incorrect. Garcia was expected to win his last two fights and the odds for the fights were heavily in Garcia's favor. Yet, in every way but on paper, he lost the fight against Herrera, and in his farcical fight against Salka, beat up a top 50 junior lightweight. Want to know why people don't like Garcia, well, there you go.
If Garcia steps up to 147, he gets beat down by Thurman, Porter and Brook.
You don't like Garcia because he fought a good fighter like herrera? The salka fight was a joke but the herrera fight was a legit fight. Garcia has fought legit fighters for the past few years.
The Herrera fight was supposed to be a non-controversial relatively easy win for the lineal junior welterweight champion, Garcia, in front of his fans in Puerto Rico, considering he was coming off the best win of his career. Instead, it left a bitter taste with many fans because it appeared Herrera beat him but was robbed. I had Garcia losing. He then refused a rematch with Herrera and fought a 40-1 or something underdog in Salka, a junior-lightweight. Whatever good will he built up with people, he's done a good job recently squandering it. He also acts with a real sense of entitlement, like he controls the division. He won't face Peterson until Matthysse gives him a rematch. He won't face Herrera again, but he faced Morales twice. On and On.
not really sure what is wrong with any of that. Why would he give herrera a rematch? It was a close fight that could have gone either way and Garcia is the champ. Happens all the time in boxing. This isn't old time boxing where people fight each other 5 times. It wasn't an exciting fight the first time so there isn't a demand for it. It doesn't bother me much at the moment that he doesn't give matthysse a rematch because both of them have a lot of other options. If there was nobody around their divisions then I would want a rematch.
If Garcia fights a scrub next fight then I won't be happy but if he does end up fighting postol then that's a good fight and I wouldn't be upset with that. Matthysse is a really good fighter and I think at this point in his career, he needs to forget about Garcia and just keep beating other fighters to get to the top. If he gets there, Garcia will give him a rematch.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
Lucas is awesome, I dont know why anyone would think he got exposed against Garcia, he lost a close fight, its not like he went in there and lost 12 zip. As for getting knocked down by Molina who gives a dam he got right back up both times, his chin is fine its not like Molina is a Paulie in the punch department. I would love to see a rematch with him and Danny if not that then lets see him smash Broner.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Master
Maybe the enthusiasm for Mattysse went after his lame effort against Garcia. Yes he had an injured eye but he could have done more. The fight itself was not great.
Hold up, since when did you actually watch a fight? Stop repeating what you've read you tart
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Master
Maybe the enthusiasm for Mattysse went after his lame effort against Garcia. Yes he had an injured eye but he could have done more. The fight itself was not great.
Hold up, since when did you actually watch a fight? Stop repeating what you've read you tart
Yeah I thought it was a great fight and a great performance by Garica
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Fenster
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Master
Maybe the enthusiasm for Mattysse went after his lame effort against Garcia. Yes he had an injured eye but he could have done more. The fight itself was not great.
Hold up, since when did you actually watch a fight? Stop repeating what you've read you tart
Yeah I thought it was a great fight and a great performance by Garica
I watched this fight live at the time and I think it was undercard to a bigger fight and the fight was not great.
Either way Mattysse let me down as well as himself, his children and family – in that order.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Master
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Beanflicker
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
Master
Maybe the enthusiasm for Mattysse went after his lame effort against Garcia. Yes he had an injured eye but he could have done more. The fight itself was not great.
Hold up, since when did you actually watch a fight? Stop repeating what you've read you tart
Yeah I thought it was a great fight and a great performance by Garica
I watched this fight live at the time and I think it was undercard to a bigger fight and the fight was not great.
Either way Mattysse let me down as well as himself, his children and family – in that order.
It was on the undercard of Mayweather vs. Garcia I believe.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
Is it ok to like both Lucas AND Garcia? I'm a fan of Garcia... he's better than most people wanted to give him credit for. Keeps proving doubters wrong. Half the world thought he was scared shitless of Lucas after watching his destruction of Peterson. They were wrong. As for Lucas, I'll watch him fight any day of the week. So he lost... big deal. He's got scary power that can end a fight at any time. I'm sure many fighters out there still duck him. He goes forward all the time... has faster hands than people give sluggers credit for... and gives fans a great fight for their money. I like them both.
Re: Lucas Matthysse excitement?
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Is it ok to like both Lucas AND Garcia? I'm a fan of Garcia... he's better than most people wanted to give him credit for. Keeps proving doubters wrong. Half the world thought he was scared shitless of Lucas after watching his destruction of Peterson. They were wrong. As for Lucas, I'll watch him fight any day of the week. So he lost... big deal. He's got scary power that can end a fight at any time. I'm sure many fighters out there still duck him. He goes forward all the time... has faster hands than people give sluggers credit for... and gives fans a great fight for their money. I like them both.
You aren't allowed to like both. Pick one.
