Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
You need a jab to beat Floyd and a world class one and you need to be able to keep it steady for 12 rounds and not let him take it away from you with right hands. Oscar had the best success and showed that dramatically over the first half of the fight but he couldn't stay with it.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
lol. unreal. holding, running, clinching, elbowing, crying about a bite that never happened, and the shitty ref breaking up the fighters when ever maidana starts landing. UNREAL!!!!! the card shoulda been billed, mayweather/bayless VS Maidana! fucking bullshit.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
Maidana is likable and exciting to watch. But he's a brawler. He punches in odd angles, with hardly a straight right or left among them. His right hands travel vertically down, as if to rabbit punch the opponent. Other than rush Floyd and fluster him with all the wild swinging, it takes a bit more boxing prowess to beat Floyd. An aggressive boxer/puncher might well beat Floyd at this point in his career. But it certainly wasn't going to be Maidana.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
I guess i'm the only one who thinks what we saw tonight was horseshit. thats cool tho. u floyd nuthuggers can have yer idol. im done with his dirty, sleazy trickster tactics. all the money floyd makes and he gives his fans a 12th rd like that??? running? did u not hear the boo's? u people really think THAT wins fights? ha ha.... floyd almost had to be carried back to the dressing room.
yes, maidana blew it. but what fighter wouldnt get frustrated by your target running like that the whole fight, or a REF who wont let you work inside, when that is your style??? whatever.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
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#1FightFan
I guess i'm the only one who thinks what we saw tonight was horseshit. thats cool tho. u floyd nuthuggers can have yer idol. im done with his dirty, sleazy trickster tactics. all the money floyd makes and he gives his fans a 12th rd like that??? running? did u not hear the boo's? u people really think THAT wins fights? ha ha.... floyd almost had to be carried back to the dressing room.
yes, maidana blew it. but what fighter wouldnt get frustrated by your target running like that the whole fight, or a REF who wont let you work inside, when that is your style??? whatever.
Floyd DOMINATED Maidana. Go cry to your mommy.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
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#1FightFan
I guess i'm the only one who thinks what we saw tonight was horseshit. thats cool tho. u floyd nuthuggers can have yer idol. im done with his dirty, sleazy trickster tactics. all the money floyd makes and he gives his fans a 12th rd like that??? running? did u not hear the boo's? u people really think THAT wins fights? ha ha.... floyd almost had to be carried back to the dressing room.
yes, maidana blew it. but what fighter wouldnt get frustrated by your target running like that the whole fight, or a REF who wont let you work inside, when that is your style??? whatever.
It was a shit fight.
Maidana was clearly NOT as up for the fight, hungry or motivated.
However, let's review:
Floyd got HIS gloves.
Floyd got a HUGE ring.
Floyd got HIS ref.
I normally like Bayless a lot. Best ref out there imo, but tonight...fuck me. Breaking every single time, plus the point deduction and the "I don't know what he did but next time its a DQ"
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
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Hulk
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#1FightFan
I guess i'm the only one who thinks what we saw tonight was horseshit. thats cool tho. u floyd nuthuggers can have yer idol. im done with his dirty, sleazy trickster tactics. all the money floyd makes and he gives his fans a 12th rd like that??? running? did u not hear the boo's? u people really think THAT wins fights? ha ha.... floyd almost had to be carried back to the dressing room.
yes, maidana blew it. but what fighter wouldnt get frustrated by your target running like that the whole fight, or a REF who wont let you work inside, when that is your style??? whatever.
It was a shit fight.
Maidana was clearly NOT as up for the fight, hungry or motivated.
However, let's review:
Floyd got HIS gloves.
Floyd got a HUGE ring.
Floyd got HIS ref.
I normally like Bayless a lot. Best ref out there imo, but tonight...fuck me. Breaking every single time, plus the point deduction and the "I don't know what he did but next time its a DQ"
Of course Floyd called all the shots. He's the undefeated Champion who has dominated for 18 years. Maidana is a B level fighter who should be happy to be getting his biggest payday for the second fight in 4 months. Maidana showed tonight why he will never be great. He didn't even try until the 9th round. A pretty pathetic effort on his part. Floyd fought exactly how we expected him to. It was Maidana who let us down tonight.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
It is difficult to knock out Floyd when he can tell you what gloves you can wear, who will be the ref and your fighting in his house.
You need to be a prime Hearns to stand a chance.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
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Is there anyone who thinks another fighter can get a decision against floyd in Vegas? Let's face it, everyone kisses his ass, judges, venues, refs( how many elbows has floyd got away with?).
I definitely think that , yes, the only way to beat Floyd is by KO. and what track star can catch that elusive runner?? lol. I'm just sick of this whole BS. The greats went and fought in other places.
Manilla, Africa, England, Pacman is fighting in china! But not floyd, why would you leave the safety of a place that wont let you lose?
Cmon Marcos, do what the boxing world needs! Change.
I do give floyd props for taking this fight though. I never thought he would.
Name me one fight that Floyd has lost hands down ?
People talk about Castillo 1 but to me they only talk about this because it was so unusual to see anyone get close to Mayweather. So people often over estimate just how close Castillo got.
If anything, I'd say it's the opposite, Floyd has to win clearly to get the nod.
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
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It is difficult to knock out Floyd when he can tell you what gloves you can wear, who will be the ref and your fighting in his house.
You need to be a prime Hearns to stand a chance.
Maidana was wearing the custom flat Everlasts. He got beat and much worse then the first time and the point deduction and bite gate made no difference whatsoever.
It was an ugly fight but Maidana is the one that initiated all the horse shit and lets face it that's the only chance he had of winning. An ugly fight.
Some people want Floyd to lose so bad that they simply make shit up or like Jim Lampley see things during fight time that are not there and calling punches that were not even thrown. Ugly ass fight that Floyd still won 8 rounds to 4 at worst.
One thing I will say on Floyd is that he's lost something and I had been saying that through the entire buildup and it seemed more mental to me then physical which in my view can effect the physical. He seemed to get his mojo back at the weigh in and looked like a man on a mission at fight time but I think that was fronted. I think he has some real issues upstairs and its mixing with his hubris.
He might want to think about getting an outside trainer. His old man never gave him one coherent message in the corner last night or one bit of actual in fight boxing advice unless you include "we got this"
Re: only way to beat Mayweather is by KO, anyone think different?
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Master
It is difficult to knock out Floyd when he can tell you what gloves you can wear, who will be the ref and your fighting in his house.
You need to be a prime Hearns to stand a chance.
Maidana was wearing the custom flat Everlasts. He got beat and much worse then the first time and the point deduction and bite gate made no difference whatsoever.
It was an ugly fight but Maidana is the one that initiated all the horse shit and lets face it that's the only chance he had of winning. An ugly fight.
Some people want Floyd to lose so bad that they simply make shit up or like Jim Lampley see things during fight time that are not there and calling punches that were not even thrown. Ugly ass fight that Floyd still won 8 rounds to 4 at worst.
One thing I will say on Floyd is that he's lost something and I had been saying that through the entire buildup and it seemed more mental to me then physical which in my view can effect the physical. He seemed to get his mojo back at the weigh in and looked like a man on a mission at fight time but I think that was fronted. I think he has some real issues upstairs and its mixing with his hubris.
He might want to think about getting an outside trainer. His old man never gave him one coherent message in the corner last night or one bit of actual in fight boxing advice unless you include "we got this"
Floyd is thinking of retirement and has one foot outside the ring. He does not like the pain and hurt but likes to pick up the big cheque. Floyd will not knock out anyone again.
