Re: Who is the next boxing superstar?
Garcia has yet to fight 147 and that's where he is headed. Unless he can bring some more lightweights along to beat up I'm not convinced he'll have an easy go of it either. He has some rebuilding to do and while the Matthysse was very solid this is a "what have you done lately sport"...and he hasn't exactly been stellar. Last nights Floyd would very much embarrass him skill wise I believe. Guys like Thurman are still in a flavor of the month kind of running. The network is pushing them like crazy, and for what he lacks in refined skill and achievement Thurman is the type who 'jumps off the screen', he is very charismatic and almost comes off like a freekin professional wrestler in interviews with the speaking in 3rd person. Kid has flair but should not fool himself into thinking that qualifies as substance. The walk to the ring is littered and cluttered with the shells and shadows of ones who were supposed to be "the next".
Re: Who is the next boxing superstar?
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Looking for a superstar is much like looking for something you "lost" and always ask about location......stop looking, let it rise and be noticed on his own merit! There are 101 elements we put in a star now. Just let em prove they can fight loud, talk less
Edit: Its sure as fook not Wilder.
Great post and there are so many road blocks these days and monopolies etc. I often wonder how many legit greats get or have gotten lost in the shuffle.
Boxing has too much manufacturing today. Its all about marketing..of course, but we lose the opportunity in discovering hidden gems and some talents by assuming and not asking for the full menu.
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Garcia has yet to fight 147 and that's where he is headed. Unless he can bring some more lightweights along to beat up I'm not convinced he'll have an easy go of it either. He has some rebuilding to do and while the Matthysse was very solid this is a "what have you done lately sport"...and he hasn't exactly been stellar. Last nights Floyd would very much embarrass him skill wise I believe. Guys like Thurman are still in a flavor of the month kind of running. The network is pushing them like crazy, and for what he lacks in refined skill and achievement Thurman is the type who 'jumps off the screen', he is very charismatic and almost comes off like a freekin professional wrestler in interviews with the speaking in 3rd person. Kid has flair but should not fool himself into thinking that qualifies as substance. The walk to the ring is littered and cluttered with the shells and shadows of ones who were supposed to be "the next".
Exactly my sentiments on Thurman. He is so far from being "the man" until it's funny the way he hypes himself up to be that. Broner tried the same thing, and then came back to reality when he got hit in the face, several times, against Maidana.
Garcia could be the man. He could. A rematch with Matthysse isn't necessary, but I feel he would win again if this turns to be the case.
Garcia needs an arch-nemesis. Like how Ali had Frazier and Foreman, and to some extent Liston and Norton. Like how Floyd had Corrales, was chasing the shadow of Oscar and how the fight with Manny still could be made. I doubt that it will be made, but it has made for interesting hype surrounding them to be interesting.
Thurman could be that arch-nemesis. Matthysse was it to a certain degree, but Matthysse needed more hyping. Brook, if packaged properly, could be a good nemesis. But, without a doubt, Garcia needs one or two build up fights to be labeled as "the man"... and win those in grand style.
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An outside choice but if Eubank Jr keeps winning he has all the ingredients to be massive and in a weight range with plenty of name opponents.
We are looking for a future superstar. So someone who will emerge 2016? When Floyd has left.
Golovkin wont be it. Hes not a big crowd puller now and has held a Belt since 2010!
Hmm, Eubank Jr is getting his chance to become a national superstar now against Saunders. Just like his old man v Benn, he didnt have any name opponents and battered Benn. This is the start of a special fighter.
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An outside choice but if Eubank Jr keeps winning he has all the ingredients to be massive and in a weight range with plenty of name opponents.
We are looking for a future superstar. So someone who will emerge 2016? When Floyd has left.
Golovkin wont be it. Hes not a big crowd puller now and has held a Belt since 2010!
Hmm, Eubank Jr is getting his chance to become a national superstar now against Saunders. Just like his old man v Benn, he didnt have any name opponents and battered Benn. This is the start of a special fighter.
or the end.........hopefully
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An outside choice but if Eubank Jr keeps winning he has all the ingredients to be massive and in a weight range with plenty of name opponents.
We are looking for a future superstar. So someone who will emerge 2016? When Floyd has left.
Golovkin wont be it. Hes not a big crowd puller now and has held a Belt since 2010!
Hmm, Eubank Jr is getting his chance to become a national superstar now against Saunders. Just like his old man v Benn, he didnt have any name opponents and battered Benn. This is the start of a special fighter.
or the end.........hopefully
A lot of top names in the sport are giving Eubank Jr glowing praise after seeing him in action or facing him in sparring. Froch thought enough of him to use him in his most important fight. Could billy Joe force Froch back?
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GGG is a little old, but his style n the quick blow outs will allow him to enjoy longevity. I think he has the best chance to be the next big superstar.
If Thurman stays humble n hungry n keeps improving, he has a chance. I didn't think Porter was a guarantee n I don't think Thurman is either. Both have potential, but so did Broner n Berto.
If Canelo gets a different trainer, one to take him to the next level n round him out, he will be the man. He has a large following already n a willingness to take on the best.
Crawford is my outside choice to take over next. He has all of the tools and is the only new guy I see who is a complete fighter.
If u think about it, u don't see guys like Hop, Floyd, Hagler, Toney, Sweet Pea, Oscar, Tito, Evander...etc., anymore. Guys like Canelo have talent but don't have the versatility, depth n learned tools necessary to compete at that level
I like Crawford too, but I want to see more of him. Bey just won a belt, but he is going to get chopped to pieces soon, in my opinion.
Yeh, I don't see Bey elevating to another level. To me he has that glowing look of fragility, though benifiting from huge promotion...and a shit all judge with 119-109?! Two good calls on Crawford, think he is becoming one of the more improved and diverse guys out there. Unfortunately on the otherside of the coin he has the charisma and limelight personality of cold cereal outside of Nebraska.
Re: Who is the next boxing superstar?
More than likely it won't be just 1 person, it will be a "class" in 1 weight division or another. In the past we've worried "Who comes after Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler?", "Who comes after Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield?", "Who comes after Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad?", "Who comes after Ali, Frazier, Foreman?"
There's always someone or a group of people
There are some guys who have opportunities: Carlos Diaz Ramirez 19 years old 15(8KO)-0-0, Joel Diaz Jr. 22 years old 17(13 KO)-0-0, Danny Garcia 26 years old 29(17 KO)-0-0, Jesse Vargas 25 years old 25(5 KO)-0-0, Frankie Gomez 22 years old 18(13 KO)-0-0, Errol Spence 24 years old 14 (11KO)-0-0, Demetrius Andrade 26 years old 21(14KO)-0-0....and boxrec will not let me search anymore....fuckers.
After a good summer Olympics we will have some more prospects and maybe we'll get a good class in.
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More than likely it won't be just 1 person, it will be a "class" in 1 weight division or another. In the past we've worried "Who comes after Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler?", "Who comes after Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield?", "Who comes after Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad?", "Who comes after Ali, Frazier, Foreman?"
There's always someone or a group of people
There are some guys who have opportunities: Carlos Diaz Ramirez 19 years old 15(8KO)-0-0, Joel Diaz Jr. 22 years old 17(13 KO)-0-0, Danny Garcia 26 years old 29(17 KO)-0-0, Jesse Vargas 25 years old 25(5 KO)-0-0, Frankie Gomez 22 years old 18(13 KO)-0-0, Errol Spence 24 years old 14 (11KO)-0-0, Demetrius Andrade 26 years old 21(14KO)-0-0....and boxrec will not let me search anymore....fuckers.
After a good summer Olympics we will have some more prospects and maybe we'll get a good class in.
Get out of it!
Tyson has his own era!
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Get out of it!
Tyson has his own era!
....because he certainly didn't hold his own with Holyfield or Lewis
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Lomachenko could be one. Look how much he's improved between the Salido and Russell Jr. fights. He just needs a little more experience in the pros, and he'll be almost unstoppable.
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Get out of it!
Tyson has his own era!
....because he certainly didn't hold his own with Holyfield or Lewis
He didn't fight Holyield until 10 years after he won his first title!
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He didn't fight Holyield until 10 years after he won his first title!
....and Evander Holyfield is still 2 years older than Tyson so your point?
